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CORVETTE TODAY #181 - Corvette News & Headlines, Early October 2023
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Jul 11, 2025
CORVETTE TODAY #181 - Corvette News & Headlines, Early October 2023 Fall is here and in full swing. The automotive industry is going through a tumultuous time right now with the United Auto Workers striking the Big 3 automakers. Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, teams up again with Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger to bring you the most up-to-date information in the world of Corvette. Besides the UAW strike, here are some of the other Corvette topics that Steve and Keith will discuss: 1. 2024 Corvette production started on Monday, September 18th 2. Two ZR1 prototypes are spotted in Colorado with no wheel coverings and no exhaust sounds 3. A C3 Corvette gets a "Mako-over" into a Mako Shark II 4. A C8 Z06 falls off a lift at a dealership
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keep you current and uptodate on what's happening with America's sports car. Keith, welcome back to the show. Autumn
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is here, isn't it, buddy? Man, it's great. In Florida, the weather is finally calmed down. Those hot days
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are still warm during the day, but the mornings and the evenings are perfect for those Corvette cruises along Tampa
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Bay. So, you'll have to take advantage of those shortly here. Very nice. Well, let's start as we always do with our news and headlines
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show and get an update on Corvette production at the Bowling Green assembly plant. Absolutely. So, Chevrolet kicked off the
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2024 Corvette model year on September 18th, and we've learned since then that they are actually only building
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Stingrays right now over these last two weeks. We'll discuss more about that in just a minute, but our production numbers, they always lag a day or two,
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but we're showing around 1,38 Corvette Stingrays built in those first eight days of the model year, and we'll
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probably have around650 by the start of the week. So, they are really cranking them out there. You know, the last time
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we were on the podcast, the UAW strike had just kicked off. So, there were a couple unknowns happening at the time,
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but we did confirm that Friday with a representative of the Bolding Green assembly plant that workers did complete
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the 2023 model year on September 15th. And then the 2024 model years kicked off
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beginning that Monday, the 18th. That's exactly right. And let's get the latest update on the UAW strike as well.
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The very first week only three facilities were targeted, one from each of the automakers. But then in the
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second week it was expanded. So the UAW targeted 18 GM facilities and these are
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facilities that acts as parts and distribution site. GM has already had to idle their Fairfax plant because of some
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parts were being made at its Winselville plant in St. Louis. That was the very first one that was targeted by the UAW.
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So now by them going after these warehouse sites, we risk getting parts impacted to these assembly plants. And
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then there's also replacement parts for dealership service departments. So far the assembly plant is still operating and the quantities as discussed have all
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been good, but the longer this goes, the more likely we're going to see an impact in Bowling Green. As we record this on Friday, we're actually expecting that
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the UAW will widen the scope of the walk out even further. So just always stay tuned for details.
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Yeah. And it's interesting because there's a lot of Corvettes parked in the yard waiting for parts, aren't there?
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Yeah. You know, it's a really tough situation to be in, both for people at Bowling Green and the workers there, as
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well as, you know, the owners that are just wanting their cars. It's one of the stories we've been working on for a little over a week now. Hundreds of
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Corvettes are parked behind the factory waiting on parts to complete them. A friend of ours had flown a drone over the plant on August 28th. And so, if you
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see those drone photos, they were taken a month ago. We're hoping that the situation has eased a little bit. What
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we were hearing was you have these hundreds of Corvettes sitting in these lots. In fact, these were lots that I
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didn't even really know about. I went back and had to compare them to some other flyovers that we had photos of
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earlier, like back in 2020 and 2021 when the C8 was brand new. They're utilizing these lots. These cars are just parked
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in there. They're not covered. They're fully painted cars obviously, but we've been hearing then also from owners and
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buyers saying, "My car was built on August 9th and it's still there." And I talked to that guy earlier this week. His car is still there. Another guy had
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his car built later in August. Still waiting. The forums are filled of people, you know, talking about this as
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well. We've heard secondhand that there are some supply chain issues affecting the finishing of these cars and it does
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appear that it's carbon fiber. Again, we obviously know the supply of the Z07 carbon fiber arrow has always been
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tight, but the shortages may have extended the dive planes, the engine appearance package, and even the level
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one interior carbon fiber packages we're hearing are being affected. One of these guys that had a Z06 just had his car
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released, and he believes his issue was the engine appearance package. He says finally they did the wiring install for
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the engine bay light and then he ended up getting an $895 credit for the option on his car. That's a really good
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scenario if that's the case because that's the hardest thing is getting that light in there. You can always go out and pick up those carbon fiber closeout
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panels aftermarket or through another dealer somewhere. You can always add those later. So that actually worked out
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pretty good for him other than the weight. It's just something we're watching closely. We think that when the 2024 Corvettes began production, they
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only started with the Stingrays, and that was hopefully to give that supply chain a moment to catch up and then use those parts to complete these waiting
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2023 Corvettes. Like I said, it's a bad situation for all around. In fact, one of the last points we make, we talked to
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a small dealership about this. He's got a car that's been there since August. He's not going to get it this month, and
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so he doesn't get paid on it. Chevy reps don't get paid until the cars are delivered, and they can't deliver a car
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until it's sent to the dealership. This affects everybody all the way around. One last point is we think they need to
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clear this backlog first before releasing all the 2023 production statistics because these cars aren't
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invoiced yet. So, they're not considered complete, which is why we may not have that full number from Chevrolet on what
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exactly they finished the 2023 production number at. Gotcha. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't think of that. There's so many different
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aspects of the story, but obviously the worst one is that customers are sitting there. You know, customers that had
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plans to go to the museum to do their RHC delivery, those are being cancelled left and right. It's a big mess.
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Yeah, it really is. Well, we did have some good news about 2024s, Keith. Z06 and -ay allocations came in starting
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Thursday of last week. Exactly. Yeah. So, last Thursday, another ordering cycle for the Corvette was specifically for -ay and Z06. And
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it's actually the first orders for the -ay. Quantities are going to be low at first. The plant's going to do this deliberate roll up as it did with the
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Z06. In fact, Tad said that they were going to be doing a very deliberate roll out during his talk at Carile. The
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quantities that we got from the -ray allocations from some of the large volume dealers, we can't mention specific numbers, but they were all
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single digits. So, really tells you that if the big volume dealers are getting single digits, then they're going to be
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very slow for everybody else going out there. We are seeing issues with parts for the new with the allocations.
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Obviously, we got constraints as well. And so we're seeing constraints on these new alloy wheels for the ERA. This is
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more likely a launch issue than it is a supply chain. You know, it's a brand new car. They're ramping up there. We saw
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the very first constraints for the new colors and now all those have gone away. So there doesn't appear to be any constraints on those new colors. We're
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hoping that's the case for the -ay wheels. But then there's also carbon fiber and that's affecting both the Z06.
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Again, the engine appearance package is on constraint. The interior carbon fiber package is on constraint. And then for
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Z06, the carbon fiber woes, they go to the high wings and the ground effects and affecting both the visible carbon
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fiber versions as well as the carbon flash painted. So it's not one way or the other. It's both of those are being
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affected there. One of the ways around that ZZ3 engine appearance package constraint is you can order the RPO D3V.
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D3V, it's the wiring harness and light into the engine bay. Of course, we're talking coups only. I believe this costs
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just $100. And then like I said, you can go aftermarket on the carbon fiber closeout panels or customize it with
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exterior painted panels to really customize up your engine bay. This is a new option for 2024, so hopefully
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dealers are aware of that and do that for you if you had the engine appearance package on your order. Carbon fiber, buddy. It's a blessing and
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a curse. I hear you there. Well, let's take our first break, Keith. When we come back, it's Corvette racing
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world of Corvette. In segment number two, we always talk about Corvette racing and Corvette rumors. Keith, how
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did Corvette racing do at Indianapolis? Well, you know, it was a great venue. Great to be at the Brickyard, but not so
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good for the Corvettes that day. Obviously, the C8 R was at the Indian Motor Speedway. They did a race called the Battle of the Bricks, which takes
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place on the road that goes around IMS. All weekend, the team kind of complained about, you know, they just couldn't get
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it into gear, so to speak. They couldn't find their speed. I think they qualified in fifth position P5 and unfortunately
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that's where they finished in fifth place for the race. They just could not hang with the class leaders no matter how hard they tried. The final race of
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the year actually comes up in two weeks. It's the 10-hour petite lemons happening on Saturday, October 14th at Road
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Atlanta. I believe we are second still in the standings, but the leader would just have to maybe crash out during the
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warm-up laps and then we would have to win, I think, to really have any chance of getting those points to take the lead
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there. I think we'll end up probably in second place for the championship this year, unless, like I said, something really goes gang busters at Petite
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Lemons, in which case, you never know. It's a 10-hour race. Well, that'll be interesting to see. I always like Petite Lama. It's a lot of
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fun. In the rumors category, Keith, we got a lot of them. We think that we saw two ZR1 prototypes spotted in Colorado
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and these had no wheel covers on them. So, we saw the wheels possibly for the new ZR1.
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Yeah, we had a really good week watching the Corvette ZR1 prototypes. They were testing out around Golden, Colorado,
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which is a very high altitude. So, they do their high altitude drives around there. And again, what was unique about
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this group of testing cars was they did not have these round covers to hide their wheels and especially the rear
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wheels. So, on the front, they had the D06, the spider aluminum wheels, but on the rears, they had this new design that
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we' seen leaked before and it was considered as is the new ZR1 wheel, but they were off the car. So now here they
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are on the car and they do have a distinctive pattern that looks just like the ZR1 wheels on the 2019 Corvette ZR1.
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So that's why a lot of us are really thinking that these are specific to the ZR1 and that these are ZR1's. But for
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each model from Stingray to Z06, Chevy has always hid the wheel designs until
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the full public reveal of the car. And then once the car is revealed, you know, they take all the camo off, they take
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off the wheel covers, and you can see everything because everybody's seen it already. It's already been photographed. But for whatever reason here, they
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decided to run their cars without these covers on. And we got a really good look at them at multiple sightings last week.
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I really like them. They look really good. And we also got video of a ZR1 taking off with no sound.
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Yeah, this is interesting, you know, and again, I think it's just a combination of a number of different factors, but it
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was another signing of the cars. There was a video the guy driving a car was turning off of a road and the ZR1
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prototypes were behind him. So, he lowered his window and captured them as they drove past them. Now, they're only going about 45 miles an hour or so, but
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they were really quiet, which made some people obviously thinking, are these EVs? Are these hybrids? Is this a -ay
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driving in stealth mode? We had another video capturing the same cars at idle. And there's definitely an ice engine
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going on in the back there. You can trick people and put exhaust ports on a car that's an EV. When you have sound
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coming out of them, you know it's an ice engine. Yeah. The other conversation then turned of, well, will the ZR1, is that the ZR1
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with a Z06 with twin turbos, or is it going to be the Z06 engine with the
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E-Ray front drive motor? Where's it going to get that extra horsepower from? We actually think the ZR1's going to
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have the turbos. And actually, turbos can kind of quiet a car even further if it's not driven under heavy throttle at
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all. I mean, they kind of act like a secondary muffler in a way. Our take on it is as he rolled down his window, you
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hear the cars drive by, but there's road noise from those big tires, you know, riding down the road there. I think that's what we were hearing there. It
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kind of drowned out any kind of motor noise there. Another video, like I said, was directly taken behind the car and it
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was bumbling away there like it does. We'll know for sure what the engine drivetrain of these Y1 is once they are
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publicly revealed, but there's going to be speculation going back and forth. Until somebody can really hear turbo
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sounds, no one's going to be satisfied with the answer until the actual reveal. So, it's just one of these things where
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they're working their black magic with their thing and then we just have to be surprised when it comes out. We have to be patient. Patience is a
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virtue, right, buddy? And that's very hard for Corvette people and especially those of us that are really watching new products and seeing
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how they're doing. We're really excited about the future. Amen, buddy. In the first segment, you know, we talked about allocations coming
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out for the Z06 and the -ay. We actually had rumors of an -ay confirmed at 3000
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status, didn't we? Yeah. So, the news came the day before the order banks open last Thursday. You know, dealers can submit since I think
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late August, they've been able to submit orders into the order banks, but they all go in at 1100. They just accepted,
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you know, well, yeah, we got your order. We haven't looked at it. It takes a lot of work to put those orders in. So, they might put it in earlier, and then what
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happens is they'll get the call and say, you got allocation. So, then they can match that order to an allocation, and then it really becomes an order. We
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think one of these initial orders just got picked up a day earlier. It was confirmed with a print out from the GM
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order bank as it being at 3000 status. 3000 status means the car was accepted by production control and that these
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cars will be produced shortly. Because this is the first order round for the -ay. We know that they were going to
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start hopefully again with strike and supply chain and all that. But the official first day of the -ay is supposed to come October 23rd by going
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to status 3000 right away. They're all set up to be produced starting that week. We think this was just an early
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car. got picked up a little bit early, but it was confirmed with a print out from the GM water bank, which made it significant because technically the
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order cycle didn't start until Thursday when this happened on Wednesday. That's pretty cool. Here they come. And
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I hope that the UAW strike doesn't mess it up. That'll be great. Boy, we're praying, praying, praying.
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Fingers crossed, buddy. Let's take our final break, Keith. When we come back, it's the lighter side of Corvette coming
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lighter side of Corvette. Keith, this was really cool. A C3 Corvette got what I call a Makeo over, meaning it's
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looking like a Makeo Shark 2, isn't it? Yeah, this is pretty cool. This was a video that was put out by a site called
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1 was the genesis for the C3 Corvettes. I mean, the long body, the big nose on the front. And then a couple years later
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loved that Makeo Shark 2 was Joel Rosen of Motion Performance, the guys up in New York that were buying cars and then
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time it was a Z06. Yeah, another Corvette has fallen and it can't get up. How do these service tech
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continue to make these rookie mistakes? I could see at the very beginning of the C8 era where the jacking points were
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moved backwards because now we have 60% of the weight in the rear and you have to accommodate that with the engine back
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there. So now here we are four years later into the model and a brand new Corvette Z06 a Chevrolet dealership
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undergoing PDI prior to delivery fell off the lift. And not only that, not only the pictures are painful, but
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there's actually video that shows it coming down as well. Imagine your car going through PDI delivery and you're
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getting that call thinking, "Oh, it's come pick up your car and it's no, your brand new car fell off the lip and damage so you can't get it now." And
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then what do you do? Demand a new one. Is it fixable in a way that you'd be satisfied with it? It's just not a good
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situation at all. They're like gold, right, Steve? Oh, absolutely. And that's not going to buff out either, is it?
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No. It was painful to watch. And you can see that that arm you just sliding up the side of the car. I think it punched
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out the window. It made a mess. So, not good at all. On the good side though, Keith, we do have a new Corvette song,
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don't we? I knew you'd like this. You being the DJ. Whenever there's a song about Corvettes, we always like to feature it.
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And some of them see are really bad, you know. Some of them are just lot of autotune and nothing else. It's a song
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called Corvette by a young British singer. Her name is Sapphire. It's no life in the fast lane, but it's pretty
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good. She's a pretty girl, and she does this song. I guess the premise of it, lost love, just waiting at the bar to
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stay night, hoping to find the object of her affection, would return to pick her up in his Corvette is basically the gist
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of it. And at the end of the video, her love interest shows up in a convertible C3 Corvette. So, all was right in the world. We watched that video a few times
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and not bad at all. It really wasn't. My radio station is a classic rock station. We're not going to
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be playing it on the radio, but it was still nice for all the Corvette people that like Corvette today. You can go
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watch the video at corvette blogger.com. That's a good one. Like I said, previous ones we've had have just not been good
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at all. So, yeah, I'm always more amazed by ones that are pretty good. So, yeah, definitely worth watching. This is not a rap song, everybody. And
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the last couple songs that we've had about Corvette have been rap songs. So, you'll enjoy this because it is not a
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rap song. Also, Keith, this is pretty cool. At Mikum Auction in Dallas, a 2023
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70th anniversary Z06 coupe sold for $247,500.
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Wow. Yeah. Our friends at Mika really know how to throw an auction. In Dallas, they actually had five 2023 Corvette Z06's
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for sale. The top seller was this 70th anniversary. It was in the white pearl. It It had the VIN number 84 and it was
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built back in January. So, it had the full factory warranty with the car that was transferable. The MSRP on it was
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like 150,000 and the auction actually hammered it closed at 225. And so then
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with the buyer's permission, the total price out the door was 2475. So, a big sale for the owner of that car and and
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it actually it came down to two guys. One guy was there live, one guy was on the phone and they just kept going back and forth and back and forth until it
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finally closed there at the 225. Big prices again for Z06's. The other two cars that sold in Dallas, there was five
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total, three of them sold. The other one sold for 2145 and then 23,500.
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The two that didn't sell, they had high bids of 175 and 150s. Market is obviously still redot for these cars and
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when they're right, they go for that big money. And of course the anniversary editions, we think they'll do very well because they're the one year the white
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pearls only that one year color that people love. You love that color. It's going to do very well in the future here.
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Yeah, definitely. And our final story, Keith, again, this is really sad. We had a PDR video showing a Chevy Silverado
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rolling over a C8 Corvette and it was done on purpose. What the heck's going on with that?
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Yeah, this is kind of our WTF story of the week. And there was photos going around of a Silverado sitting on top of
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the orange CA8 Corvette Stingray. And your first thoughts are, oh wow, you know, it's an accident. Something happened there. Those photos came out.
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They were released by the fire department on Facebook. So that's how they went viral that way. But the story got much weirder because then the owner
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of the Stingray, he released his PDR footage. He had his PDR running as a dash cam essentially. It shows both
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vehicles at a four-way stop. It's at nighttime and they're facing each other. And then the truck just kind of moves
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slowly into the intersection and then runs directly at the Corvette Stingray,
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hits the car headon, pauses there for a second, and then drives up on top of the car. And when it drove up, the wheels
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came off the top of the roof and it trapped the occupants inside the car. They couldn't get out until the fire department got there. Once the fire and
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police were there, the owner of the car showed the video to the cops and the guy was arrested who was driving the truck.
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I guess keep those PDRs running at all time as dash cams, right, Steve? Yeah. I mean, hey, it came in handy this time,
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didn't it, buddy? Yeah. Just one of these weird situations. You never know what people are thinking or what they're drinking,
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but yeah, this was a really weird one. And uh hopefully just stay safe out there. Strange. Strange. Well, buddy, thanks
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for being back on Corvette today. Have a good one. We will see you in two weeks. Yeah, glad to be here. So much fun. And
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