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CORVETTE TODAY #185 - Corvette News & Headlines, Late October 2023
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May 8, 2025
CORVETTE TODAY #185 - Corvette News & Headlines, Late October 2023 As we start to enter the holiday season, we still have plenty of fresh, new Corvette information to tell you about. And who better to deliver all this Corvette new to you but your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett and Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger. Here are some of the news highlights Steve and Keith will talk about.... 1. The Bowling Green Assembly Plant is experiencing a temporary parts shortage, but it's not related to the UAW strike 2. The C5.R Corvette Race car is inducted into the IMSA Hall of Fame 3. Is GM and the UAW getting closer to a deal? 4. A GM dealership is actually selling new Corvettes BELOW MSRP 5. 5 new Corvettes are shipped to Michigan, but they are supposed to be delivered at the National Corvette Museum CORVETTE TODAY continues to be one of THE best sources for Corvette news and updates every two weeks with the News & Headlines show! Be sure to tune in every 2 weeks. Listen to the podcast, watch the YouTube video, join the Facebook group, sign up for weekly email notifications, follow the show on LinkedIn, Instagram, X (Twitter) and Threads, plus shop in the Merchandise Store at: www.CorvetteToday.com
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is here every other week we keep you Curr and up to-date on what's happening with America Sports Car Keith welcome
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back to the show we're getting close to Holiday SE season buddy yeah the weather's really turning great it's getting a little cooler of course
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Halloween this week so you got your scary face on I always have my scary face on that's why I've always been told
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I have a great face for radio there you go all right buddy let's start our show like we always do with a
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Corvette production update from the Bowling Green assembly plant absolutely so we're a little over a month into 2024
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Corvette model year production and looking at the numbers here we're always a little bit behind but we so far we've
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seen 3,883 new sting RAC produced and then of course we have another 963 Corvette z6s
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have been built that Z6 number should actually be closer to a th000 by the start of the week combined we're showing
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that 4,800 Corvettes are produced for the new model year already it doesn't seem like they've missed a beat from where they were in terms of producing
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cars from the last model year but you know what we haven't seen yet is the start of the Corvette eray if you remember GM had said initially to their
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dealers that they were going to start production on October 23rd of course that was last week came and went no eray
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went down the line we mentioned a couple months months ago that perhaps CM could be waiting for the UAW strike to end
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before launching the new car which I guess makes a lot of sense to us what we've seen though with the eay is the
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customers who have submitted their initial orders are seeing ppw starting December 4th Shane from The NCM who runs
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the rhc delivery program they told the buyer that it could just be a placeholder and that there is the potential that production of the eay
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could start earlier but again we're just kind of a waiting to see but for the most part production numbers we've seen for eay looks like everybody's going to
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be starting on December 4th got it also we're seeing that bowling green assembly plan is experiencing some temporary part
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shortages but it's not related to the UAW strike yeah the corporate assembly plant we know they've been working to
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make every Corvette it can but the hits just keep coming with these part shortages even the Detroit News picked this up and they had an official
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confirmation from a GM rep saying the plan is utilizing every effort to minimize downtime and produce as many
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cars as possible our supply chain manufacturing and Engineering teams are working closely with our supply base to
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minimize further impact on production right after this message came out we did see that the production counts did drop
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but not real significant you know whether they building 180 or 190 per day it actually just dropped down to about
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160 170 a day on the 18th of last month we did see 107 cars built but then the
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counts rebounded right after that we know a lot of this is carbon fiber issues but we're also hearing and I quote stupid stuff and I put that in air
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quote stuff like missing emblems you know I think we had a friend with a Z6 he had ordered the red the6 emblems and
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they weren't ready and this car wouldn't be shipped without him so imagine you're being held up because of a red emblem
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just crazy stuff like that one other point GM is still working on that backlog of 2023 Corvett still waiting
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Parts a couple guys that we highlighted in our original articles on the subject have actually received their z6s these
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are guys that had their cars built like in early August so they have gotten their cars and good for them but they weren't real happy about the process of
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course they didn't hear any details about why their cars were being delayed one of the things we were talking about is that we'll really know when the 2023
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is are done I think is when the Corvette museum actually publishes the full 2023 sta statistics for production because
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then everything will have been tallied and we know everything that was built and invoiced and sent out the one last
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point is that if you saw that video with Taj Jer and Jay Leno where they were test driving the eay Taj actually says
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that the 2023 model year was the most ever so it does sound like once they get all these cars completed it will break
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the production record we're just again waiting to see what actually happens with these numbers when they are officially published I'm looking forward
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to seeing those numbers for sure also we had some constraints on the Z06 and the eay for November orders didn't we yeah
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this is a order cycle that started October 19th and closed on the 24th and these orders are targeted for production
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during the week of November 13th and 19th so again constraints only are targeted towards those orders going in
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at that time if you already got an order in these constraints don't impact you but here's what we're seeing it's all
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three cars the stingray for the most part has been pretty good of course no inter appearance package no carbon fiber
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engine Shield very limited on the carbon fiber interior package the level one is very limited there you know the other
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thing we saw too is that they actually put limits on z51 versus non z51 so there are cars available and they'll be
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able to build them but it's not just open season on whether you want a z51 or a non z51 and then again they're limited
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on these gloss black wheels for some reason just whatever reason is gloss black is tough on the eay you can't get
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them at all you can't obviously get any carbon fiber like the engine Shield the engine appearance package or the level
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one interior package is not available yet hopefully though it might be once the production actually does start but
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anybody ordering this week can't get that on there and then finally with Z06 if you got arrow on the car forget it
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you're better off either looking at aftermarket sources and just saying build your standard Z6 and then add
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whatever Wings you want aftermarket or say skip me and and go on because there's no carbon fiber High Wings there
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are no visible carbon fiber High Wings the carbon flash ground effects the visible carbon fiber ground effects just
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not available of course no engine appearance package we're hearing dive planes have been one of the sources of the delays with the 2023 and that might
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be carried forward to the 202 24s as well so it's something we're watching it's just a matter of Hit and Miss but
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yet they are building cars and they're building them in significant numbers I think the ZO6 we're seeing about 50 a
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day at least being produced so with already being one month in and having nearly a thousand cars I think that does
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say that a lot of people are making choices when it comes to how they want to outfit their cars and just how long
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they want to wait constraints they're not fun but it's just part of the business right now yeah definitely is
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also there's a group called The Durant Guild and they're bringing the core to China aren't they yeah as I always like
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to say Steve you know this is the ca Corvettes world domination tour continuing the Durant Guild actually is
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named after Billy Durant who was the founder of General Motors back in the early 20th century the Durant Guild is a
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premium import business established by GM in China and think of it as like a boutique sales location it might travel
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might go to different places buyers can come in and see some of the Halle cars being offered by General Motors in China
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the next show coming up this is big for China it's a 2023 China International import Expo be held in Shanghai the
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first week of November the corette eay is going to be there that's one of the big cars and then of course Chevrolet is
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also going to be sending over their EV pickup truck the Silverado the GMC Hummer EV pickup truck's going to be
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there GMC Yukon and Chevy Tahoe will be on display as well one of the things as we were talking about I don't really
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have a count for how many cars have actually been sold I don't know if I've seen any kind of press releases there not sure how significant sales are in
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China for General Motors but it'd be interesting to find out because these are you know obviously high-end cars
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Boutique cars we know that they showed the Stingrays over there last year it'd be interesting to find that out yeah I'd
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love to hear that information as well also we had a Corvette buyer Keith that was supposed to do an rhc delivery at
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the Museum his car is being shipped to Michigan what is going on with that yeah when we titled this post we said Dude
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where's my car because initially we thought there was just a mixup and shipping but it's actually turned out to be something else so this guy over on
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the Mid Engine Corvette form his nickname over there m P99 he had a 2024 Corvette Stingray it was completed on
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September 28th and he was all scheduled for an rhc delivery his car had already be an invoice he was at datus 4150
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before you do an RH delivery you have to pay for it so his car has been paid for it's been registered in state but it was
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delayed and after hearing anything about it he decided Well let me check my OnStar and when he did that he saw that
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his car was traveling through Ohio on its way to Michigan and its final destination ended up being in Pontiac
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Michigan after we started digging around of course I'm working with my friend John over at the mid Corvette forum on this turns out that mp99 wasn't alone
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we've identified at least five Stingrays and three that we've confirmed that were completed September 28th so it appears
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that there was some issue at the factory with these cars and they couldn't be fixed there they were sent up the
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Pontiac and we think they were sent actually to the vendor that does some structural work on the Corvette they're sending cars up there to be fixed how
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much tear down do they have to do if this is a structural issue so very concerning for these customers you know
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GM has been tight LIF on these cars we always like to say we like to let them know that we know that something's going on but they have not acknowledged the
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issue just basically of saying that we're working on it our final thoughts on this that it is limited to stingrays
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that were completed on September 28th if those customer cars can't be fixed they'll be scrapped and those customers will get a priority order resubmitted
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and they'll have their cars built once again and I just say you know well at least on the bright side a these guys aren't alone there's more than one I
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know two of the cars are going through McMullan so they got a fantastic dealer standing behind them hoping to find out
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what's going on with their customer car Again Jim has identified this problem and they're attempting to fix it before the customer gets their car so I guess
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that's the Silver Lining that it'll be resolved and all on but again this is just concerning because these cars are
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already bought and paid for you have warranty started you had trials on your Sears ATM and your OnStar started again
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hopefully they can get this all wrapped up and resolved very quickly man I hope so too fingers crossed for sure all
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Corvette rumors Keith this was so cool to see the impsa Hall of Fame inducted the c5r Corvette and that was one of the
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very first ones wasn't it yeah so M just wrapped up the 2023 season fing bati lemons and then the day after they
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always have their big end of the year celebration and award ceremony this is where like the drivers get their driver Championship Awards they name all this
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other stuff the manufacturers Awards the Michelin endurance cup so it's a big night everybody's there all the owners
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are there team owners and stuff so really a big night part of that celebration included the start of the insa Hall of Fame and one of the
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inaugural cars inducted was that Corvette c5r it made it debut in 1999 it' go on to earn 31 wins in the
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American lemon series including an overall victory at the Rolex before in 2001 and then of course the c5r also had
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three lamon victories 2001 2002 and 2004 the amazing status nearly a quarter of
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Corvette Racing's total 127 wins came with the c5r so really cool that m is
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putting together their own Hall of Fame they can go back to 1999 where the American Lon series became insa you have
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that 20 year history there hopefully we'll get into nominating some drivers of course we'd love to see Ron Fellows
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Johnny oconnell some of those really early guys also be honored by insa because of the contributions they made
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to the series there so really cool great that Corvette c5r is there and of course we got to be expecting the C6 and then
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of course C7 and the C6 would be interesting because you had the GT1 cars those Ground Pounders which sounded so
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good then you had the GT2 specs after 2008 or 2009 a lot of history there glad to see Corvette's part of it yeah
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definitely also there's a crew called AWA racing that'll be racing GT3 RS next
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year they've announced their 2024 lineup and they've got two cars they're racing yeah this is a Canadian team you know
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they made the switch they're racing an IMA this year they had the LMP 3s they're switching to GTD and they're
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going to have the two Corvette z63 RS running in the GTD amateur class the four full-time drivers their names are
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oay fidani Matt Bell Anthony Mantella and Nico verone all four drivers were
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part of aw's lmp3 class this year this will be the third consecutive year that Fon and Bell have shared a race car
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while Mantella and verone were co- drivers at Daytona this year and they won the Rolex 20 four in their class I
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think they had four drivers so Nikki verone was one of those of course verone was also part of Corvette racing
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historic WC champion and GT amateur last year so we're very glad to see him
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actually making the jump over here to imsa with the Corvette both his teammates from last year Ben keing and Nikki catsburg has spoke at length about
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ni and how great of a teammate he was he was also very fast in the car sometimes you wonder about the younger guys how
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they're going to handle up he's done great great to see him with the Corvette again very exciting now you know with
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IMA we'll have four Corvette the rout 4 starting in Rolex 24 this year and of course two of those will be run by AWA
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racing on a Canada congratulations there they're also going to have a couple endurance riders for their Michelin
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endurance Cup races those announcements will still come of course we also are waiting for announcements from TF
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Motorsports over in England they're racing the two Corvette Z6 RS in ct3
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amateur in the WC and of course we have a team that's racing in the GT America Series so lots of Corvettes out there
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they're going to be racing in 2024 can't wait buddy that sounds like fun and we're just a couple months away which is
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really really cool and it's going to be here faster than you know it that's for sure in the rumor section Keith let's go
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to Germany because we think the ZR1 was out there on the nurburg ring there was there for a couple weeks we had a couple
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VIPs there give me the details oh see I live for this stuff this is better than
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can't attain yet and it's out there doing its things Corvette Engineers they just WRA up two eventful weeks at the
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nurburg ring where they were seen testing four different ZR1 prototypes at the German track we actually had made
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friends with the Spy photographer over there a couple years back we thought they were going to be there in September we sent him an update he said nope they
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weren't here then in October they showed up and then it was game on the team did encounter some obstacles even on their
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first day they got flagged the cars were too loud so they had to modify the tail pipes they these special pipes on there that would point the sound downward to
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the track there's all these manufacturers there racing all kinds of cars so you had rain a couple B she had an accident one day from another
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manufacturer that paused testing we also heard that one of the zr1's had a tire disintegrate on them caused the team to
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take a pause and then evaluate all the tires before continuing our spy photographer also told us they were driving a yellow Corvette ZO6 on the
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track each day but neither it or the ZR1 was able to run an official time lap while in Germany what they do is there's
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a signup sheet and he had access to be able to see if they were signing up and unfortunately they never did they were testing they were probably timing
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themselves but they were in traffic so not like a clear track in front of you where you could just run we kind of feel like it's a marketing opportunity lost
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they haven't been real forthcoming on their times at the nurburg ring but they should because it is a benchmark
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everybody follows it we find out after the fact it's not as exciting as if we would right now and you know the other
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thing too is the Mustang's going to be over there either the Dark Horse or that brand new BTV car I think it's called
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right they're going to be gunning for that seven minute time no American car has done it yet it's that'd be great if it was the Corvette that did it first to
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do so you have to sign up you have to do the hot laps and you got make that work a couple things also we noticed about
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these prototypes at the ring Chevy was testing just the coup ZR ones there was no convertible models in the mix nor did
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we see the lightweight carbon fiber Wheels which I thought was very interesting because we saw the carbon fiber Wheels when the e-rays were
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testing as well as the V6 not sure why they weren't there it makes us wonder if those wheels will be available for ZR1
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customers interesting you had mentioned some VIPs as well yeah we had some special guest there we believe Oliver
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gav and former Corvette racing driver was doing some laps with the Corvette we believe that EX chief engineer Taj
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jucker was riding shotgun we saw an Instagram post from olly and Taj behind the wheel of the car and then looking at
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the on track photos we could see Oliver's distinctive blue and orange helmet he was the only driver we saw
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with orange on his helmet the passenger in a couple of these shots had the same exact design of fire suit worn by tag so
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we're thinking those two are out there having quite a bit of fun on the nurburging those days again we live for this stuff we love to see the Next
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Generation cars over there we're kind of now wondering what's going to be next of course people are thinking that the zor
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models up on Deck we actually think that they're going to sneak in a Grand Sport model first but again these are all just
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speculations we'll have to wait we don't even know if it's going to be a year could it be two years before we see some of these cars coming got a lot of work
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ahead of them in generally we also we see cars testing in the United States first before making the jump over here I
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guess the next aspect of this ZR1 will be probably some sort of public reveal coming up and with it already being
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November I don't know if that's going to happen this year if it'll be pushed off till next year yeah it's speculation for
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sure speaking of speculation though buddy are we getting closer to a GM and UAW agreement you know we recorded this
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on Friday there has been some significant movement in the UAW strike against the big three over the last few days first of all it looks like the
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union and Ford have reached a tenative settlement and then the Ford workers are going back to work last week GM offered
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a 23% pay increase among other benefits and Ford we know that the offer that was accepted was a 25% increase and we know
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that 11% of that comes the first year in fact between the increase of the pay and then cost of living adjustment Ford
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workers could see as high as a 33% pay increase which is very significant UAW has also targeted GM's cash cow with
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workers at the Arlington Texas plant walking out last week Arlington makes SUVs for GM and it's one of their
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largest plants so having that plant shuttered and targeted May finally get GM to make that offer that puts them
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over the top especially with the Ford deal as a reference so far we've been lucky though the strike has not impacted the corv plant yet but until the strike
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is over it's still a possibility so we're hoping that both sides can get together get this done it sounded like from reports that they were closed they
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just had to get it over the finish line so let's hope that happens fingers crossed buddy fingers crossed all right
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Keith let's take our final break when we come back it's the lighter side of Corvette on Deck next here on Corvette
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segment we talk about the lighter side of Corvette and Keith I was glad to see this because this guy's been on the show
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Dave kig from kindigit designs and and rides on Motor Trend TV is offering
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a C1 Corvette lookalike it's built with carbon fiber and one of them there's not very many buils it was offered on bring
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a trailer yeah this is a really cool car this is a custom built i' say one of a kind it actually built nine of them so
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far he unveiled the car at the 2021 SEMA show since then we've seen several
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different variations of it and this one's really cool the car we're talking about this was conditioned by Corvette Mike and Anaheim and after a nearly
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two-year build this one was completed and then offered on bring a trailer the car features a lightweight carbon fiber
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body I think it weighs just under 300 lbs and then of course it's over a roadster shop chassis and it's powered
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by a Lincoln Felder Built 7 L LS7 V8 that makes about 700 horsepower it's a
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really beautiful car sping on this car was really heavy it actually closed at
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$426,000 but failed to reach reserves so it is still available and if you're interested you can give Corvette Mike a
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call I got his number here it's 714- 63070 but man if you go and check out
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the stats on this car the build quality of it I mean it's pretty amazing and some of the stuff kig did was like the
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53 original ones were all very tight cars for taller people he kind of redid All the proportions in the car to make
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it a lot more comfortable and then all the custom stuff that's in the car is amazing so definitely check out this ride we say nine were built but each one
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is one of a kind it really is that's really cool and talking about Corvette like cars John delorean's daughter I
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used to love the DeLorean back in the day she wants to build a new DeLorean based on the C8 Corvette yeah so we know
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all the story about the DeLorean from the famous Back to the Future movies the cars the eyes in the ' 80s there that's
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been actually several attempts to try to create a new DeLorean car From the Ashes you know we wondered to they do like a
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recreation or would they do a totally new car and this is what looks like it's going to happen his daughter's name is Katherine she's formed a company called
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DeLorean Next Generation and they want to offer two models and these would be coachbuilt cars they would use the C8
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Corvette as a starting point mostly chassis engine maybe interior and then they put their own body on it maybe
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their own custom interior inside but we've seen some really cool rendering to on the car with the trademark gold wi door just a really modern take on the
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DeLorean Motorcar companies whether or not this will translate into a real car remains to be seen there's three
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different companies out there that are all buying to come back with a DeLorean maybe one of them will strike gold and we'll see something that' be really cool
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I'm anxious to see what happens with that and I guess Keith this had to happen at some point in time there is a
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GM dealer in Montana that's actually selling Corvettes new ones $3,000 off
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MSRP yeah you know we keep hearing that the market for the C8 Corvette Stingray started to cool down of course I'm one
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of the people that keep saying that but the evidence really is all around us you know we've seen in the secondary Market with prices of pre-owned Corvettes
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dropping and then the time to sale increasing you know there's 120,000 Corvette Stingrays that have been built
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for the C8 generation so there's tons of Supply right now on the other side we still know many dealers that have a list
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of customers wanting to order a new Corvette so there's still this balance thing happening last week while we were looking at the Corvette forum we saw a
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post from a dealer in Montana He was offering two brand new C8 Corvettes a coup and a converion for $3,000 off MSRP
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like wow that's pretty cool you know I haven't really seen a dealer advertise that much off of MSRP before especially
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for brand new cars so I called the dealer confirmed that these were the actual prices of the cars and he kind of told us you know we didn't really have
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any big list these are dealer stock orders but they've got winter coming and Montana it comes pretty quickly so they
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wanted to get these cars out and I did check this morning of the two cars that we presented there was a red convertible
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it had sold but there's a black 23 Stingray Coupe it's a 3lt it's still available from Missoula Chevrolet and
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Montana the MSRP on the car is a little over 92,000 and then they're selling it for 89,000 for details you contact
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colleag his number 46532 2441 and who knows maybe you can
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score a stingray right off the lot and a little cheaper than your neighbor that's awesome and also Keith our final story
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you know we talked two weeks ago on our last news and headline show about a new Corvette Batmobile we've got another
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rendering that's come up as well yeah so one we saw previously that was based on the Lincoln Futura the 1960s Batmobile Y
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and that was built on the C4 Corvette platform this is a rendering by the guys over at hot cars they do a lot of
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renderings over there they offer this new take on the Batmobile it features a C8 Corvette ZO6 is the cape Crusaders
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ride but it's really cool because it's a whole video that's been rendered so you're in the bat cave you see Batman
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standing there and then the car comes up on this turntable starts spinning around you can tell that Batman's ready to
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climb in for some crime fighting action there but there's really cool stuff on this car of course you got the jet engine in the back there's an off-road
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version where the car lifts up a foot from a suspension a really nice take on a modern-day Corvette for Batman you can
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see the video of Corvette blogger to search Batmobile and you'll find it that way that's so cool that's awesome well
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buddy thanks for being back on Corvette today we will talk to you in two weeks yeah that's right Steve we'll see you at the same bat time on the same bat
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