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CORVETTE TODAY #134-John Kraman From The Mecum Auctions Previews Two Upcoming Shows
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May 8, 2025
Our friend of the show, John Kraman, TV host of the Mecum Auctions makes a return visit to the CORVETTE TODAY show! Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, gets with John to preview the Kansas City auction, Muscle Cars & Corvette Nationals, and the crown jewel of the Mecum Auctions, the Kissimmee show. John also outlines a particular group of 15 red C4 Corvettes that will be sold at No Reserve at the Kansas City show! It might be the holiday season, but it's also Mecum car auction season on CORVETTE TODAY.
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Corvette owners from around the the world my guest on today's show is the TV host and the professor from the Mecum
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Auctions Mr John crayman John is back on Corvette today to preview not one but
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two upcoming shows John welcome back to Corvette today my friend hey Steve thank
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you so much man you know I've been really been looking forward to this you are really the tip of the spear in the
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Corvette World with your podcast first of all you do such a great job with it and the reach that it has and the
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influence that it has is Extreme I just wanted you to know that as a Corvette Enthusiast I've owned three Corvettes
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the entire Corvette Community is just so proud to have you as an asset and I mean that from the bottom of my heart my
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friend buddy you are too kind thank you so much for that I really appreciate you saying that John we've got two shows
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that we want to talk about first coming up the most recent will be Kansas City my hometown let's start off and cover
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the history of the Mecum Auctions in Kansas City Missouri you know Steve it's a Mecum tradition that we end our
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calendar year at can the city and let me tell you why it's something that we look forward to other than the fact we sort
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of celebrate that it's the end of a year let's talk about the venue that you being from the area is certainly aware
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of the great Convention Center Kansas City Convention Center downtown Kansas City known as Bartle Hall and let me
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tell you why that venue is so special it allows us to put the entire Mecum
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Auction and that includes the check-in area the car display area of course all
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the offices and the entire auction stage and seating and Arena Under One Roof all
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self-contained because that building has no supports inside it's a free-span building that spans a quarter mile in
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length does that make it perfect or what it's a big building Bartle Hall is huge and it is pillarless so it's a big
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building right yeah that's the first thing and then the fact that we've been coming to Kansas City in a variety of
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venues for over 20 years we've settled in now to Bartle Hall and it's a year-end celebration that cars are
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typically very heavy on entry and middle level Collectibles yeah we'll have some hundred thousand dollar cars there as
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well but it really Taps into the core of what the collector car market is all about and specifically Corvettes with
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roughly eight to ten percent of our total inventory at Mecum Auctions having Corvettes which is our number one
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specific model in quantity to cross the Mika motion block number two how about a Ford Mustang wow how about that that's
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pretty cool the Corvettes lead the way as they should absolutely buddy give us dates and times and obviously we've got
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the location of Bartle Hall which is Downtown Kansas City but what are the dates of the show and the times yeah
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it's always that first weekend in December this year that will be December 1st through the 3rd that is a Thursday
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through a Saturday our Target is 700 Vehicles we'll have 12 hours of live
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television coverage coming up on Motor Trend TV and Motor Trend plus and I just want to do a shout out that this is our
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first year with a a relationship on Motor Trend and I will just tell you that it has been a match made in heaven
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our former Network NBCSN decided to close down operations they literally went dark and so we were left looking
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for new home Motor Trend scooped in pick us up and we're the highest rated show on the network we're very proud to say
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that obviously not bragging just proud they're delighted or delighted to be on board we're getting involved with some
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of their other great shows as well a lot of companion work going on back and forth just as a final thought we are on
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the course of Kansas City will be the exclamation point for another record year become auctions world's largest
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cut-to-car Auction Company Steve we're going to end up it's a prediction with over 600 million dollars in the sale of
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collector Vehicles we've been in business since 1988 this is on track to be an all-new record that's amazing 600
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million dollars that's incredible that's a lot of zeros buddy exactly yeah gotta
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look twice that's not a typo that's right now we've got some special Corvettes coming but we're going to cover in
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section two of this show but highlight some of the other cars that are going to be coming up for bid in Kansas City yeah
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as is fairly typical for Mecum Auction it really is a surprisingly good mix a
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couple of standouts the standard bear I guess we could call it the poster child for 1950s automobile has to be the Bel
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Air Convertible especially when it's in red and we've got one lot in res 105 that's coming up at Kansas city that is
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just a show stopper 283 power pack with Powerglide automatic fender skirts on
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it's been restored that one's really cool and then let's give it now to the Mopar folks Lot number F-150 running on
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Friday is a 70 Dodge Coronet 500 convertible whichever it's not a super b or an RT no but it's got a 383 with a
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four-speed really unusual combination trucks continue to be really really big
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and four by fours will have a lot of those as well somebody can come to Kansas City with five to ten thousand
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dollars and buy a collector car and we'll have some six figure cars there as well again specializing in that very
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popular very desirable entry level collectible it's a perfect way to finish out our year and Kansas City is right in
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the middle of the United States so it's easy to get to if anybody wants to come in for the Thursday Friday and Saturday
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show for the Mecum Auction it's easy to do stay downtown and you're in and out no big problem at all well said also
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John let's talk about coming up in November in Chicago real quickly let's talk about the muscle cars and Corvette
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Nationals you and I are both going to be there yeah you got to do a shout out to Bob Ashton I know that he's been on your
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show he is the absolute ringleader of what I refer to Steve as the Pebble
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Beach of muscle cars and Corvettes and I don't think I'm exaggerating located to Stevens Convention Center literally in
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the shadow of Chicago O'Hare Airport it has become one of the big major shows
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specializing in both muscle cars and Corvettes and it's essentially an invitation show you submit your car to
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Bob he makes the decision to get the car in based on a couple things the quality of the car the historical significance
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and whether or not the car has been in his show before unlike a lot of shows that you and I both go to where we see a
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lot of the same cars year after year you won't see that a macaque and 550 of the best Corvettes and muscle cars on the
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planet will be there with a lot of different themes but their cars that have not been to that show and even more
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so there will be cars that will be debuted that have never been shown anywhere the place will be packed he's
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got vendors there's all kinds of stuff going on and both you and I are going to have a part in that absolutely right I'm
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going to be doing a seminar on the Corvette Today Show and you're going to do a seminar as well aren't you right
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I'm going to do one with Bob has really put the priority like a lot of the sincere players in the muscle car and
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Corvette Market on the potential youth market and we've got six young 25 years old and younger one guy's about 15 years
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old all of them showing cars at mccacken this year and I'm going to moderate a panel talking with these youngsters
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about their Automotive passion how they got it started and what they brought to the show in addition to that it's going
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to be a busy two-day show my classic rock band Red Lion 7000 will be playing on Saturday night that would be November
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19th The Show by the way only runs two days November 19th and 20th that's a Saturday and a Sunday and if any of your
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listeners are thinking about going to the show let me give you an Insider tip plan on going both days this show is so
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jam-packed with so much to do and so much to see you really need both days to
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take it on in that'll be a lot of fun I've never been and I'm really looking forward to it that is the week prior to
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Thanksgiving on that Saturday and Sunday so we'll see you at mccacken muscle cars and Corvette Nationals right at the end
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of November and then we'll see in Kansas City the first weekend of December buddy let's take our first break and when we
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to the Kansas City auction the first weekend of December John first off give us an overview of the C4 Corvette as you
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know it overall well you know Steve that is one generation of Corvettes of course now we're through generation eight as
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from C1 right through C7 Corvettes have never been hotter and the C4 has taken a
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little bit of a benefit of that Steve they're starting to move up in price particularly for cars that are unmodified in excellent original shape
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and have a known ownership mileage maintenance history very nice it's good to hear that the C4s are getting a
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little bit of love and kind of spreading the love over all the generations buddy they deserve it absolutely right now
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this set of Corvettes coming up in the Kansas City auction is a unique set of Corvettes that will be crossing the
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block where did this collection of C4 Corvettes come from yeah what an unbelievable collection no doubt at all
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Steve that this is the absolute finest collection of C4 Corvettes to have ever come to the auction block period And as
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the cars are going to be selling by the way at no Reserve at our upcoming Kansas City auction in December coming from a
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consigner a private individual not too far away Topeka Kansas is where these
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cars are coming out of it's quietly assembled the best collection of red C4s at least one of every year from 1984
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right all the way to 1996. it's unlike anything really that we've ever seen before and it's really got me cranked up
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that's really cool now there's 15 of these C4s all of them are red all of them are low miles and all are selling
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at no Reserve so they run the gamut of the best C4s available talk about some of the uniqueness of these cars in this
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collection because I know one is a Top Flight one is one of 448 I mean it's
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just amazing that this collection has come to Kansas City it really is and you know what I think that that's a great
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venue for because as I mentioned earlier in your segment one this is the end of the year this is a celebration of The
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opportunity for a good collection to be put right at the top of the Pinnacle we call it a main attraction this is our
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star for about 700 cars or so we'll have a Kansas City if it was to go to one of our other auctions that was a bigger
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auction it would be probably down a few notches compared to million Dollar Plus cars which obviously these aren't
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anywhere near that so they're going to have a chance to shine as the best of the best at this particular auction and
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I'm going to predict I'll just say it right now I don't think there's going to be any Bargains out of this group and
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I'll tell you why I think that is you touched on it every single example no exceptions at all is red and of course I
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just want to say that Corvette code number 81 bright red was on the C4 Corvettes from 1984 all the way through
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the end of the 1992 model year and then 1993. they changed the shade code 70.
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torch Red made its debut so there was actually two different Reds during the run of the generation four lineup and of
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course torch red one of the hot sellers on the sea Corvette today a couple of standouts in this group almost all of
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them have in the 20 000 mile or less range but man I just got to tell you I'm a huge fan of what's considered to be
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the top of the line of all the C4s and that is the ZR1 that's the car that once
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again reset the bar and we've have got leading that off of course they came out in 1990 and that's at 375 horsepower 32
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valve double overhead cam Lotus design Mercury Marine built all were six-speed
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them and that's great because now they're preserved for all time but with 12 000 miles guess what that one can be
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driven put 500 000 miles on it a year over the next 10 15 years it's not going to impact the value and it's going to
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give anybody that wants to drive a chance to experience what was at that time the hottest Corvette that you could buy yeah that's really cool and the
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beauty of all this John I remember watching one of the Mecum Auctions where we had all the pace cars selling in one
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set this is not happening with these 15 red C4s they're all being sold individually right I'm really glad that
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you mentioned that because I remember the dialogue with the consigner of the Corvette base car collection and he
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would have been hard broken had the collection that took him a long time to assemble in this particular case the
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consigner is okay with letting the cars go individually to the point and this is
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I think an effective strategy from an emotional standpoint as well that they're selling at no Reserve meaning that kind of in auction terms we call it
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going on a one-way trip when you're emotionally attached to a vehicle of cars like we all are with our cars
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especially our Corvettes it's difficult to make that selling decision it's difficult for everybody whether you
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trade it sell it upgrade doesn't matter if you do it on a one-way trip it's just one less issue they have to kind of deal
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with and process that they might be coming back home right when you know that you've made the decision to sell
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get it out there promote the heck out of it sell them at no reserve and I'm just going to make a prediction now I'm just
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going to say it I think we could very well see record prices on C4 Corvettes with this collection would not be
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surprised when is this set of red C4 Corvettes crossing the auction block What's Really Neat about this group is
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it's going to be a right smack dab during our live television coverage on Motor Trend they're going to be selling on Saturday December the 3rd it kicks
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off with the first one of the group they run consecutively by the way the first Lot number is s71 of course it's at 84
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we're looking forward to that I want to be there to see those cars across the block that'll be a lot of fun buddy
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833-840-5334 I'm your host Steve Garrett with me is my buddy John craman the
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the Mecum Auctions the Mecum show at Kissimmee Florida coming up in January John like I said this is the Crown Jewel
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for your shows all year long give us some dates and times and a little bit of history of Kissimmee Man Steve almost
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unbelievable when you hear how this auction is laid out this year and before I give you that let me just say that
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far what we call the winged Warriors the big winged Arrow Mopars of course in 69
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it was the Dodge Daytona 1970 Plymouth Superbirds we're expected to have over a
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are also going to be crossing the block at no Reserve wow unbelievable what the Mecum staff has put out there and what
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they're going to need to do to execute that auction this is big time now yeah we're hitting major leagues right here buddy yeah talk about some of the other
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cars coming up for bid at that show because we've got a lot of Exotics from Miami that will probably be coming to
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Kissimmee yeah stuff like that I love the Exotics obviously I love Corvette and muscle cars but some of the Exotics
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blow me away yeah I'm glad that you mentioned that because the European Exotics have become a really big part of
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them you come Auction Block and I'll tell you how it started I remember a conversation I had with Frank meakum the
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VP of Consignments you also see him on the Block at Mecum Auctions on TV and Frank and I were talking and he said
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this was maybe around 2012 so it's been about 10 years ago he said Johnny said I really think part of where we want to
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head into a direction never giving up our tradition of 50s croman Center cars
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Corvettes 60s muscle cars that's the core of what mikim is all about but he said I really think Exotics both vintage
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and late model Exotics is a part of where I want to take the future and man it's been mission accomplished Porsche
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Lamborghini Ferrari Maserati McLaren all fill in the blank and you're right the
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Kissimmee Florida auction which is basically Orlando that market that environment the Florida environment is
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so chock full of the widest rain the depth of inventory that's available down there is immense so late model Exotics
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are going to play a very very big part and certainly we're going to see some of those cars in the coveted top ten after
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it's all over with as our top 10 sellers yeah absolutely right let's talk about the Corvettes that are already set up
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for Kissimmee because we do have a little bit of time but this gives everybody a preview for all three of
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these shows that way if you want to come to the show or get registered to bid online or watch it on television you can
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do that but let's talk about some of the Corvettes that will be a Kissimmee that you know of so far yeah one that just
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sort of stands out Steve is it's my favorite C1 Corvette I'll get to the year in a minute but this is like if
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you're going to order one we're gonna go back to 1950 and you're going to order one this is probably how you're going to do it and obviously I gave it away in
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1958 with that distincto hood louvers and those trunk Spears that was a one year only styling touch just makes it so
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distinctive but the top of the line engine 290 horsepower fuel injected 283 with a four speed it's Inca silver with
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the red interior it has won every award that you can imagine at the highest
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degree it's been Bloomington gold certified twice in 2009 and 2015 both
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with a score of over 99 to back that up it's got multiple times ncrs Top Flight
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Awards with scores three different times of over 99 and to top it all up in 2016
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at when the Zora Arc is done to mark of Excellence award is it the finest 1958
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Corvette on the planet no way to know that but man this has got to be a contender that is a multiple six-figure
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car and by the way it's on our website right now at Lot number r366. it's worth
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it for anybody to go to mecum.com look up r366 easy to navigate and take a look at the showstopper man that sounds
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amazing it's unbelievable that'd be so cool to have any other Corvettes come to mind that are already registered and
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ready to cross the auction block in Kissimmee yeah the generation two Corvette 63-67 we know how hot that
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market is right now as well and the 67s of course being the final year the most refinements the biggest engines and all
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that stuff but every once in a while one pop up that has all the boxes checked but very few people decided to do that
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so how about a black 67 Coupe red interior 427 to 400 horsepower now
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that's the slightly milder three two barrel version of that optional big block 427 it's a four speed but listen
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to this Factory air with side pipes wow is that the perfect 67 Corvette no it's
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not a 435 but guess what you couldn't get air conditioning with the 435 if you wanted a 67 Corvette with the most
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performance and you wanted air conditioning you got the 427 400 horsepower with a four-speed and that's
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what this one has and once again show accolades and impeccably restored very very expensive generation 2 Corvette
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right there man those mid-years are awesome and that sounds like the top of the Heap indeed well buddy thank you so
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much for coming back on Corvette today we've got mccacken which is the muscle cars and Corvette Nationals coming up
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the weekend prior to Thanksgiving then we've got Kansas City which is the first Thursday Friday and Saturday of December
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and then income auctions in Kissimmee it'll be January 4th through the 15th 4
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000 cars and I'm figuring what another eight to ten percent of those are going to be Corvettes as well right you said
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it absolutely sounds good buddy thanks again for being on Corvette today I look forward to seeing you in Chicago for
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mccacken and in Kansas City all right my friend see you there and man always appreciate coming on your show thanks
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