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CORVETTE TODAY #148 - Reeves Callaway On The 35th Anniversary Of Callaway Cars and Corvette
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May 8, 2025
Reeves Callaway makes his return to the CORVETTE TODAY show to talk about Callaway Cars and the 35th anniversary of Callaway Cars and their relationship with GM, Chevrolet and Corvette. Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, and Reeves trace the early beginnings of Callaway Cars, how they became affiliated with GM and Corvette and then discuss the future of his company. Help us celebrate the 35 year association of Callaway Cars and Corvette on this episode of CORVETTE TODAY! www.CorvetteToday.com
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Corvette enthus from around the world my guest on today's show is a return guest
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he's actually appeared on Corvette today on show number 11 way back in June of 2020. he's enjoyed a storied career and
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a long association with General Motors and Corvette a 35-year Association as a
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matter of fact that's exactly what we're going to be talking about today he's Mr Reeves Callaway from Callaway cars
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Reeves welcome back to Corvette today well good morning Steve nice to be here
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it's great to have you back my friend it's been way too long first of all Reeves as a refresher from our show back
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in June of 2020 which is show number 11. let's talk about the early beginnings of you modifying and turbocharging BMWs in
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the late 70s sure that's a good place to start because it is an interesting story it
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just shows that you can never be fully prepared for the future
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so imagine back in 1977 and imagine a young man who wanted to be a race car
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driver and who immediately went dead broke by trying that path through life
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and so I had to do something to put food on the table for a young family and I've
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always been fascinated by engines and engine technology I thought that the
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greatest device that I had ever installed on an automobile was the turbocharger and in doing that for BMW
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not for BMW the car company but doing it for abmw I had been an instructor at the
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Bob Bondurant school and our customer at the school was the BMW car company and
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after a few months of fondling a BMW 320i around race tracks in North America
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and I'll date Myself by saying who the other instructors were it was Sam Posey
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yeah David Hobbs Nick craw who was about to run the scca and Jim Busby wow and
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myself you know that car only had about 100 horsepower yes I decided that I
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would ask the school ask BMW if I could take one of the old used up school cars
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take it home turbocharge it and see what the result was so they said sure take it
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wow by the time I was done with it I said Gee this is really pretty neat because with the car having close to 175
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horsepower instead of 100 horsepower it actually made it a great little ride wow
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I was living in Connecticut at that point the garage behind the house had people coming over from the neighborhood
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to help me build turbocharger systems day after day I gave the car to Don Sherman at Car and Driver yep who wrote
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a little one pager in the back of the book in 1977 that made it seem like I was ready to supply turbocharger systems
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for BMWs to the world well Steve the truth was I didn't have a drill press
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but when the orders started to come in from that magazine article we found a
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way to make the castings and the tubing and put it into boxes and send it out Friday afternoons once a week to the UPS
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man and that was the start of Callaway cars amazing yeah that car and driver
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review really got you off and running and that kind of caught the eye of Corvette chief engineer Dave McClellan
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let's talk about your early Beginnings with Dave and Corvette sure but there's something that I need to insert in there
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first we had always taken the time to make things emission compliant even back in 1977. the BMW Turbo systems branched
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out into being Volkswagen and Porsche wow the 924 and that caught the eye of
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someone that we always wanted to do business with we wanted to be the authorized agent for a real car company
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and guess who that was it was Alfa Romeo Alfa Rome was having a terrible time
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selling their gtv6 into the marketplace against the Maserati B turbo they came
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to us and said could you come up with a twin turbo system for the little gtv6
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and do it within a year and have it be a mission compliant and have it meet all of the durability requirements from Alfa
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Romeo we said let's do that let's really make this happen and sure enough a year
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later the alpha gtv6 twin turbo appeared went to the magazines was warmly
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received and we started to go into production directly for Alpha finally
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our first original equipment customer and it was a great little car the trouble is that Alpha was in pretty deep
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yogurt at that point and they closed the doors in North America just at the time
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when we had produced the 35th car of the twin turbo version of the alpha so here
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all of our eggs were in one basket and and the basket was just canceled so we
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were standing around in Connecticut fully ready to go with no cars to build
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and no plan B it was a low moment for Callaway cars it
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just goes to show that you're only as good as your last movie there you go
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and so what happened was General Motors in the process of canvassing the
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competitive set bought one of the alphas unbeknownst to us oh and all of those
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cars go to Black Lake where they are reviewed by the engineering staff at GM and I got a call from Dave McClellan who
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said we have a little gtv6 here front engine V6 twin turbocharged rear
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transaxle fun little sedan to drive and it happens to be a Dead Ringer
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performance wise for a 1985 Corvette how did you do that and that started the conversation with
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David about would we could we should we talk about a twin turbo version of the
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Corvette so that was really the gestation of the twin turbo programs for the Corvette it was because of the Alfa
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Romeo very cool so that's what I mean when I say you can't plan for the future that's very true now also in June of 86
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the B2K RPO option was created let's talk about that B2K option put together
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in June of 86 and what Corvettes it went into well the plan was Loosely that if
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General Motors would help sell the car would we build the car oh and so it was
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really a Cooperative project between Corvette group and ourselves don't
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forget the horsepower of the 8687 Corvette had fallen down to sort of a
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low point you know the 230 some horsepower right and the twin turbo came
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out at 3 1945 wow Dave and I did not know how many of these things to build
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so we asked the Chevrolet marketing department to come in and say what is the market for a higher horsepower
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Corvette a limited volume low production special vehicle with a secret ordering
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codes nobody knew about B2K at that point how many could we sell according
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to the marketing department they came back to us quite a while later and said if it's going to be double the price of
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a normal Corvette and that's what it was it was about 50 Grand in the days when a Corvette cost about 25 000 bucks they
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said you can sell 25 cars and we said you want us to tune up for 25 cars are
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there going to be even more expensive and they said that's all you'll be able to sell so I think the early prototype
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went to Road and track and there was a little tiny mention in the front of the magazine about a special option code
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that would be a secret option code there would be a Twin Turbo Corvette well remember the days when the telephones in
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your shop had lights on them oh yeah well all the lights on all the phones at
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Callaway lit up and didn't unlight for three years wow that's amazing there was
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a small misjudgment of how many the public were tolerate of this special model so we spent the next three years
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playing catch-up in terms of how quickly could we build this enormously complicated version of the car and that
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was the start of B2K there you go now in 89 that B2K option was really first seen
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on sledgehammer and Sledgehammer went 254 miles per hour let's talk about the
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Aero body design that Paul deutschman did and the record that Sledgehammer held for 25 years
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sure and that deserves a little clarification too because in 1989 B2K
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was a regular production option for the twin turbo version of the Corvette the road going car but in the background the
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challenge was do you remember the popularity of top speed testing for the magazine oh yeah okay so we would build
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a car every year for those events and it was very time consuming and very
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expensive it was almost a million bucks to build a car that could go to the magazines hand them the keys have them
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go drive it and it would operate flawlessly with no problem that was a tall order we got tired of doing that at
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about the third year because we didn't have that kind of money right I told Dave McClellan Dave you know we have an
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opportunity we should build one car that has an adjustable amount of top speed
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because it's turbocharged you could just turn up the Boost and we'll run it faster in testing than anybody's ever
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gone before and then we'll only use that car to win the event by a little bit and
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then we'll put it away for next year and bring it out and do it again we won't have to build a new car every year we'll
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just build one very capable car with an adjustable amount of top speed but only show its top speed by a little bit of a
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margin to win the event wow so that was the mission for Sledgehammer Sledgehammer started out as a regular
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B2K option right it was car number 51 it belonged to Peter levanos who owned
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Aston Martin and I don't mean owned a.s and Martin Peter owned the whole company
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and as you may remember we were building the group C engines for the Aston Martin
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effort at Le Mans yeah so that was our connection with Mr levanos we did build
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the sledgehammer with the idea that it would go 250 miles an hour Paul deutschmann was a young Canadian
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designer Montreal who had an enormously fine sense of engineering and of good
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taste we realized that the idea would be to not generate a lot of downforce
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that's not what was necessary a drag reduction was what was necessary to go
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Full Tilt top speed so we built the mock-up of the Aero body as we called it
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and we went and we tested the car and it went 254.76 miles an hour wow and so we
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screwed up somewhere because the goal was only 250 miles
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but the problem was that word leaked out that the car went that fast at the
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transportation Research Center in Ohio and you know what happened nobody ever
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showed up for a top speed test again wow that killed the magazine top speed
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testing entertainment Factor because now everybody knew that they could never win
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one of those events that's crazy isn't that fun that's amazing now B2K ran from
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1987 to 1991 500 Callaway Corvettes were produced over 500 in the B2K program
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then came Supernatural Corvettes let's talk a little bit about the supernatural
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program and the increases Corvette saw with that program sure you know it was sort of a logical step because the twin
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turbo version of the car was very complicated and very expensive to build it almost doubled the price of the car
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every year we were running out of customers for that so the demand for that was going downhill we wanted to do
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something that was a lot less expensive and almost as significant we did a
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normally aspirated version of the car it was also coincident with the l98 going
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out of production and the LT1 going into production it wasn't suitable for a big
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horsepower increase but it was a nice horsepower increase I think it was roughly around 100 horsepower nice but
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it was a lot less expensive to produce and so it widened out the market availability for a high performance
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version of the Corvette and it used the principle of resonant frequency tuning natural tuning and we just nicknamed it
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Supernatural tuning that's all and it was normally aspirated a lot less complex the cars ran like freight trains
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and they were popular oh yeah they were really popular well buddy let's take our first break when we come back we're
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with me today is Reeves Callaway from Callaway cars in this second segment we're going to talk about the C8
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Corvette and the 35 years of Callaway now Reeves the RPO code B2K holds the
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distinction of being the only engine package for Corvette that was produced outside of General Motors and it was
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fully warranted by GM and Chevrolet wasn't it it was it was a great feather
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in our cap we're so glad that they had the wisdom to hire us to do that
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sorry I can say without a doubt that it has been a pleasure and an honor to work
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with Corvette group over these 35 years it really is a great Association also
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when someone purchases a CA Corvette and wants that option talk about the process
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that happens once that car is purchased and what happens thereafter the B2K
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option is really a reference to the 35th year anniversary of the B2K program the
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new option for the C8 to honor that 35 years was called PCY it was limited to
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35 cars and they were produced in 2022 and they were all sold immediately
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through General Motors dealers worldwide but there are no more of those they were all sold they were all sold that's
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wonderful the way to get a Callaway version of the C8 is simply to go to the
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authorized Callaway dealer Network you can see it on callawaycars.com we offer
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a whole package of options for the cas and we are about to release for
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production The Supercharged version of the C8 wow that's the big news for 2023
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the stingray version of the car in supercharged form will be distinct from
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the Z06 version of the car which is normally aspirated and 5.5 liters in
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displacement the stingray version of the car supercharged will be 6.2 liters with
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positive manifold pressure and a big torque increase wow so what's the horsepower going to be we cannot say
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today but we would be happy to let you know as soon as testing is finalized the
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cars are in testing right now but until they are absolutely complete emission
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compliant durability tested and ready for production we won't release a horsepower number into we have all of
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those bases covered that sounds good you have two shops Reeves you have one in Old Lyme Connecticut and then one out in
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California if a CA comes in for this upgraded supercharger what's the process
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that you go through and how long does it usually take to get that done and taken care of good question we have what's
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called a drop ship code with the factory so that depending on where your ordering
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dealer is if he's west of the Mississippi the cars get shipped to the Temecula Factory if he's east of the
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Mississippi it gets shipped to Connecticut to be converted into supercharge form it takes about two and
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a half weeks that's what we're estimating at this point and then you have the option of either coming to the
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factory and picking the car up or having it return shipped to your dealer very
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nice well two and a half weeks is nothing no it's very quick we have a big backlog of orders and we'll be trying to
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get through them as fast as possible but when you send in your initial order request you're given a production slot
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number that will let you know approximately what time frame your car will be converted are there any other
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things that come with the supercharged version of the Callaway Corvette yes sir not that come with it but that are
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available on an A La Carte ordering mode nice if you take the 35th Anniversary
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version of the C8 that we produced it has a great assortment of upgrades for
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every area of the car the aerodynamics are done with a whole set of beautiful carbon pieces the wheels are changed to
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something that results in a 20 reduction in unsprung weight and a fabulous look in different colors the Double D exhaust
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system you've never heard anything like it from a Corvette with our badge on it so all of those items are selectable by
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you as the orderer and you wind up with a very nicely done specialized version
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of the car to your taste very nice I like the AL a la carte aspect because you can add as much or as little as you
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want exactly well Grieves let's take our final break and when we come back we're going to talk about the celebration of
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the 35 years of Callaway cars at the National Corvette Museum that's coming up next here on Corvette today
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segment we're going to talk about the celebration of the 35 years of Callaway cars at the National Corvette Museum
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Reeves the exhibit at the NCM is called powerfully engineered automobiles Callaway cars making Fast faster talk a
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little bit about the background of the exhibit and how that came about well as I understand it Steve this is either the
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third or fourth time in the past 35 years that the museum has done us the
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honor of displaying as many of the special cars we've built as we could get
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our hands on and get down to the museum so it's a real pleasure to have them
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recognize and be able to display to all the visitors there's progress that
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Callaway has made Through The Years working on and making a specialist version of the production versions of
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the Corvette it's so nice because each of those cars has a great back story and I would encourage anybody who's visiting
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the museum during that time to take a few extra minutes and walk through the display look at what has been written
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about each one of the cars and try to imagine having created them develop and
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have the wonderful opportunity of starting with such a great starting point and wind up putting the specialist
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to touch on each of them in different ways Reeves I know that the exhibit runs through the end of February do you know
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what cars are on exhibit there at the National Corvette Museum I do each one of the because that's in the display and
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I think it's about 13 or 14 cars usually we're constructed at the request of an
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owner who wanted something extra special and whether that meant paint work or body work some aerodynamic modifications
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or some reflection of one of the racing versions of the Corvette a lot of folks
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don't know that we were responsible for the creation and the build of the GT3
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versions of the Corvette race cars worldwide wow General Motors assigned us that to become the homologation holder
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and we would build the cars all to the same spec at the Callaway competition shop in Germany and they were for sale
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two race teams worldwide the one multiple championships primarily in
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Europe against Porsche against Mercedes against Audi and the ironic thing is
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we're in the same town as Audi in Germany just a little bit north of Stuttgart so it was a real real pleasure
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to go head to head with the best sports car manufacturers in the world and actually wind up beating them more often
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than not absolutely we touched on this a little bit earlier but talk about what
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you see is the future for Callaway cars well it's really exciting because as you
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can see the business of hybridizing these automobiles the right combination
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of electric assist and internal combustion engine development results in
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well for instance the e-ray being the fastest zero to 60 car Corvette has ever produced right and we are a big fan of
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electrification here's the way to look at it you wind up with an enormously powerful rear-wheel drive car and
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there's only so much power that you can put to the ground before you become completely traction limited so what
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options are open to you to improve the performance of the car they are to drive the front wheels and the only way to
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realistically Drive the front wheels On Demand is to have them electrically assisted so this is the next level of
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performance that's going to be available to what we might think of as the traditional Corvette platform very nice
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now if someone wants to get in touch with Callaway cars and have some of the upgrades done how can they do that
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that's really easy it's just callawaycars.com all of the information of all of the product line is there I
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should underscore that Callaway's current assignment is not just for Corvette we do the Camaros all of the
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cars and trucks from GM that are powered by the 6.2 liter V8 and it even extends
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over into the Cadillac range whether it's the Black Wing or the Escalade all of the Suburbans all of the GMCs the
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nice Reeves it was so great having you back on Corvette today we've got to do this again sometime really really soon
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absolutely Steve let's do it again there's always something great to talk about and especially with your guidance
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