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CORVETTE TODAY #160-Harlan Charles, Tadge Juechter and Josh Holder Answer YOUR Corvette Questions!
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May 8, 2025
Harlan Charles, Josh Holder and Tadge Juechter Answer YOUR Questions On CORVETTE TODAY! We have reached the Summit - the top of the mountain for CORVETTE TODAY! Corvette Brand Manager, Harlan Charles, Chief Engineer, Josh Holder and Executive Chief Engineer, Tadge Juechter are on this hour-long show for CORVETTE TODAY answering YOUR questions! Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, was fortunate and lucky enough to get the "Holy Trinity" for Corvette to sit down with him during the Michelin NCM Bash and talk Corvette. All 3 are informative, insightful and funny as they answer your questions from MidEngineCorvetteForum and CorvetteForum. DON'T MISS THIS SHOW...listen to it or watch it on YouTube. We have actual footage of all 3 talking to Steve Garrett on the YouTube version of this show! This is epic...the three main men of Corvette are on next week's CORVETTE TODAY show! Listen to the podcast, watch the YouTube video, join the Facebook group, sign up for email notifications and shop in the Merchandise Store at: www.CorvetteToday.com A huge thanks and with video credit going to Jeremy Welborn and Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger.com
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Josh holder the chief engineer tadjuctor the executive chief engineer and Harlan
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Charles the brand manager answering your questions on Corvette today guys first you've all been on the show on your own
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before thank you so much for coming back on Corvette today it's great to be here thanks for having us thanks always
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always a lot of fun so what we did is this I talked to Josh and I said how
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about Josh you answer everybody's questions from midenginecorbetforum.com and Corvette
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form and Josh said that would be great so I submitted questions on both forms
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they answered back and we've got your questions here but it was nice because Josh offered to have Harlan and Taj
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share with us today so all three of the horsemen get to answer your questions Three Musketeers that's right the Three
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Musketeers are here I should explain something because um people remember people get a little confused sometimes
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you got Josh's the chief engineer and me as the executive chief engineer that sounds redundant maybe
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um it used to be a long time ago in the Dave Hill days you had a chief engineer and assistant chief engineer so I was
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assistant chief engineer to Dave Hill chief engineer okay it didn't bother me but a lot of the other assistant chief
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Engineers felt like they were treated like an administrative assistant oh that's not good even though as an
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executive job at General Motors and so a decision was made a long time ago we're going to move everybody up a notch not
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in salary or pay but what we're going to do this is going to change the titles to Chief and executive Chief right so
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nobody's an assistant that's good that's really good well guys let's get into the questions here we've got all sorts of
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stuff we're going to start off with John elegant from mid-engine Corvette forum John wants to know for someone that that's considering purchasing an e-ray
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talk about the Zer performance packages in terms of suspension firmness and
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cushiness along with the characteristics versus the non-zer era who wants to start off Harlan well I'll start off
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um so uh initially because the the e-ray was designed with the all-season tire
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all-new tire but we thought there'd also be customers they want the higher performance Tire the same one that's on
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the Z06 the PS4s and so we created the ZR performance package and at one time
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we thought oh maybe we need different chassis tuning and everything but the engineers and development were able to
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do that with the same chassis tuning so it's really um just as comfortable you just have the
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higher performance Tire the other part part of the ZR package you do get though if you if it's a tenant if somebody does
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use it on the track you get the higher Wickers to install on the spoiler okay for track use
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so it it's really mostly a tire option though for the Zer relay so it's there's
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not anything characteristic wise or accessory wise it's more the tire package then right
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correct okay how do you plan to use it if you expect to do a lot of driving cross-country driving for example and
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you're never going to track the car you might say well I'd rather be more comfortable in the rain and I'll give up a little bit of ultimate performance to
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get that so you'd stick with the all season if you intend to track your car or you spend all your time in perfect
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conditions you know hammering on back roads you say I want a summer Tire I want Max performance but I think the
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question honestly the more relevant question might be where does the e-ray
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chassis stack up against other Corvette models right and so you see the car it's
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got this wide body 345 rear tires it speaks volumes of performance and even
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though it comes with all seasons it wouldn't be a parallel to a standard Stingray it like starts at z51 and moves
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on up from there in terms of what you'd feel about vehicle responsiveness ride frequencies you know the right Comfort
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Associated so the Z06 would be the most aggressive chassis tuning this would be
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in the middle and actually probably a little closer to Stingray but still a little more aggressive than the stingray but still all around Comfort all day
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long whichever Tire selection you make and Magnetic Ride is standard on the e-ray oh that's good that's really good
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and we started out with the Zer package it was early in development we just
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gotten our what we call integration Vehicles prototype Vehicles we're starting chassis development we knew we
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were going to keep a common sort of core chassis tuning roll stiffness spring rates but oftentimes when we do a tire it
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comes with other calibration work that happens mostly software calibration well
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when as we got further along the road on the e-ray the team realized that the all-wheel drive Dynamics are so capable
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that we can actually keep a common calibration and a lot of customers have asked hey I want to swap tires what do I
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need to do well it doesn't really work that way you're going to make a compromise where you're going to have to reflash the car with different software
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so we made a conscious decision let's do this intentionally we can keep a core
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common calibration and if a customer does want to swap back and forth with tires for the first time in e-ray you
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can do it with doing nothing else that's really great so when they start ordering they know that what they are intending
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to use the car for they can either order the Zer package or not the Zer package based upon what they're going to use the
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car for right that's perfect and then they can flip the other way without having to do any of the other software changes which it's funny because it puts
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us in the opposite position of we usually are when people come us and they always want to do a tire swap and we're
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like oh my gosh no the whole chassis is calibrated around those tires we discourage people now we're the other
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way we're encouraging people you can go either way that's perfect that's perfect let's go to the next question guys from
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Corvette forum we have Bearer asking does the e-ray have aeb which is automatic emergency braking and if so
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can aeb be turned off and do kind of the following distance indicator is in use
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and he also says if aeb can be turned off does the icon light up or does it
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stay lit on the dash or on the HUD would it be would it need to be turned off each time the car started
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so the I'll start and they can chime in the automatic emergency braking system can be completely disabled so you can
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turn the alert and the braking feature off when you turn it off I think a part of the question was are you going to see
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uh the icon the off icon in the in the instrument cluster and the answer to that is yes you will you will see that
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Lit that's a way to notify someone that may think it's on that it's not on right that condition will stay what we call
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latched with a key cycle so if you don't want it to ever intervene you just want to turn it off and you don't want to
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have to mess with it ever again you can do it one time it'll stay that way oh nice if you turn off another option is
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to turn off uh only the braking and keep the alert if you do that the uh the systems that
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go along with the front camera one one gauge that we didn't really talk about yet we have a following distance gauge
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that will show you in time how close you are to the car ahead of you okay when
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you have the alert on that not only does the alert show up your following distance but that time gauge will start
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to work so if you turn that off you're not going to get that information that you still use the camera signal for that
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that's great that's great and generally speaking around a b we're we are usually
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um looka scans at what the media calls Nanny systems that you know take over
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because we're not trusting your competence as a driver and we want to make sure that they don't interfere with
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driving fun sure that's the whole purpose of this car and we've been able to calibrate it such that it stays out
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of your way until you really need it in fact it's really hard we go out and do
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our vows and and try to see if we trust it to work as you close in on a vehicle
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from behind and it's really really hard to wait for the system to work it waits to the last second which it can because
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Corvettes have such great brakes it can stop in a minute crash in a very short distance and so it stays completely out
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of your way until you really need it so that's cool and and we actually announced today at the uh at The Bash
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that all 2024 Corvettes will have this feature standard that's great as a matter of fact we're recording at the
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NCM Michelin bash and you guys just got off your seminar talk about what's
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standard and coming up new for 2024 real quick and so there's basically a like a better
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term a suite of of safety features like we talked about the following distance indicator the automatic braking there's
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a pedestrian braking there's the uh intellibeam which those are high low
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beams automatically there's a lane keep assist uh Lane departure warning
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and there's one more did I get them all I think you got them all working picking
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them all right anyway I think that's but basically it's a lot of features that to be honest
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um a lot of cars have had you know in their lineup and people have been asking for that in Corvette and we've brought
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that up and just like um all these features just like Tad said that we wanted to make sure that they're
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calibrated by the customer to use them as much as you like or not and then it doesn't take away from the joy of
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driving that's great and of course automatic emergency braking you can adjust the following distance and I find
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I think a lot of us do that once you get the distance set it really doesn't interfere like Ted said it's not
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interfering with the Driving Experience so I don't really think there's a reason to turn it off for example if you go
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into track mode it automatically disables it you don't have to worry about that kind of interference and Lane keep assist we spent a lot of time in
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Lane keep assist we're a little bit paranoid that it would interfere in a way that a customer thinks their
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steering isn't what they want it to be it really hasn't worked out that way so I found myself personally driving of
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course we're still testing them and and getting exposure to them but I'm keeping them on yeah and they're not really
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interfering with yeah me too that was a surprise for me you know what I was like I would probably just leave this on it
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doesn't bother me I was like thinking I was going to get the first thing say what do I you know people get in what do we turn off and it's really not like
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that it only comes in when if you really need it so it set it and forget it exactly that's great and if you want it
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a certain way it'll stay that way nice that's great all right question number three is from mid-engine Corvette form a
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person named little zombot he said in the owner in the owner's manual for the c806 there's a warning about tires used
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on the track now does this apply to both Pilot Sport 4S and the Pilot Sport cup 2R tires and can you give us some
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background and insight about the warning so I can start uh I think the warning
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that might be confusing people that he's referring to there's a special warning about uh inflation pressures to run at
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high speed okay that was really meant for sustained high-speed think
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um Autobahn which most people here don't get to experience with their Corvette or silver state rally there's a few areas
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where people can do really high sustained high speeds so there's a higher inflation pressure recommended
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for driving situations like that's really meant to prevent the tire from overheating with prolonged high-speed
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driving what most people would use from daily driving would be what's recommended in
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the track setup inflation pressures there's cold pressures and it depends on front or rear and which Tire you're
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using but it's clear in the manual how to set those pressures for track driving great let's go to the next question
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question four is from corvetteform.com John B asks on the e-ray does the front
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drive hardware create a corner entry push in low grip situations it does it
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does it Freewheel on Corner entry or with active handling and enacted and
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traction control off do the front brakes interfere with power oversteer so there's a lot there yes I don't know I
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don't know if I even knew exactly what I just asked you guys to be honest it's a really good question it is okay and
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there's a bunch of aspects to it but starting at the top you know about understeer that would be the first thing you would think of we set up this
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mid-engine architecture right the whole idea was around weight bias getting the center of gravity more reward in the car
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more weight over the rear tires you sitting essentially at the the center of gravity so okay now I'm going to stick a
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motor which most people have picked up an electric motor and they're like well it's heavy yeah picked up a battery it was That's Heavy yeah you know is this
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going to upset the the balance of the car and we had the same fears of course we didn't want to lose the essence of
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and what's great about a mid engine car the whole way it handles and turns in so we were Ultra paranoid about the mass
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and we we did we put a higher bounty on saving mass than any other Corvette
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we've ever done even though a lot of sort of battery electric hybrids they're all heavy so it doesn't matter we we
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didn't we treated it like any other Corvette except Mass was even a more premium and so you see things like we
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have a lithium ion 12 volt right you have ceramic brake standard magnesium
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case which is essentially unheard of with aluminum Fasteners on the motor so everything was about minimizing the
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impact on the architecture reprised so well and honestly the weight distribution change is very small it's
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like one percent I think wow one or two percent maybe so it didn't change the weight distribution and as we were
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developing both the Z06 and this car we set up the tire stagger front to rear
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when the Z06 came out you saw it came out with 275 with front tires which for
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a rear wheel drive mid-engine car is essentially unheard of it's a huge tire but we were thinking Downstream that's
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the size we need to optimize when we put a little more weight on the front axle and ask the front axle to do a little
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more attractively when we put the hybrid out so we're thinking of all these puzzle pieces along the way to put
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together so when it eventually comes out we don't go geez I wish we'd I wish we'd pick your tires on the front yeah so the
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net result is after all that thinking that the hybrid Electric System doesn't add much uh mass in total and it doesn't
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shift the weight distribution much so that same crisp turn in that everybody enjoys is just as good in the e-ray
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that's wonderful yeah I know with my 70th anniversary car I was amazed coming from C7 to C8 the the tightness that you
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can get in turns is incredible it's amazing and I think part of the question
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might have been concern about as we're regenerating power
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um from the front axle during a braking situation so think Corner entry that's where the front drive unit is
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transmitting power and reverse torque uh through the tire that it might overwhelm
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the turn in and so we do control the uh
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torque transmitted through the drive unit and then some low grip situations with the question was more pointed to we
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will basically put the front axle in neutral so we're not transmitting torque we're not regening but we have a pretty nifty
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feature on the e-ray called surface we call it surface estimation but basically we can detect uh through microslip of
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all four corners how much grip is available on any given surface wow so we
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know that in advance this is a proactive system it's not reactive after the fact So based on that surface estimation
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we'll command as much available regen as we can and if we see A disruption in the
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chassis balance we'll adjust torque either positive or negatively in the front axle to allow that turn in to
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happen that's amazing wow this is a huge subject you could tell the question was complicated and it could get far worse
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than that we could do an hour on chassis Dynamics with all-wheel drive an e-axle and every place you use it and every
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place you have to avoid having it do something bad to you get out of the way it's an incredibly complicated area
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that's amazing all right our last question for segment one comes from mid-engine Corvette forum it's JB and he
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asks if someone has a new transmission installed at 6 000 miles on their C8 under warranty for the DCT does the DCC
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filter need to be changed again at 1300 miles to keep the warranty intact give
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us some give us some update on the DCT filter and how it should be changed the
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service interval for the transmission stays with the transmission okay so in
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the unlikely unfortunate event you would have to change the transmission that service interval would start over and
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stay with the transmission so at 7 500 miles or thereabouts when the service
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interval calls you would change the filter in the transmission then at 22 500 miles you would change the filter
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and the oil in the transmission and then again in the following 22 see you see the intervals are actually getting a
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little bit longer sure we tried to make it as clear as possible in the in the service interval service
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schedule but that is the recommended service for the engine or for the
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transmission and any component in the car that service integral is meant for the
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component in the car so we keep the service intervals separate transmission engine correct we tried to align the
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first one uh thoughtfully right 2500 miles so that we're not inconveniencing
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a customer that's getting this service that comes with the purchase of the car they can get their oil changed their
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engine oil filter change and their trans filter changed all at the same time that makes sense great so I was just going to
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say so if you had 6 000 so it'd be 6 Plus 7500 so thirteen five would be his
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filter correct this this particular person the transmission is so different than other components that require
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break-in that the timer starts over again if you replace those components whether it's the engine say do brake
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Corners rotors and pads you're basically following the the mile zero schedule from that point it's an apartment thing
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basically for the car correct that makes sense all right guys well let's take our first break and when we come back Harlan
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with me is the Trinity of Corvette we have Harlan Charles tajjuctor and Josh
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holder here answering your questions at the at the Michelin NCM bash here at the
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National Corvette Museum maybe maybe wants to know talk about the e-race position in the market and the C8
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Corvette lineup when should someone buy an e-ray versus a Z06 and who are the competitors for the e-ray Harlan this is
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a layup for you my friend oh yeah so the e-ray is really exciting for Corvette
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because I mean we've had in the past we've had Stingray and Zeo says people wanted to move up from a stingray we basically had
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more track oriented cars more you know higher performance you know things that
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are were very aggressive this gives us an opportunity yes we got a car that's higher performance but it moves it maybe
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a little bit more luxury high-tech GT level if you look at a Continuum of
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sports cars you could have uh like a something that's as close as possible to this a street legal race car and that's
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where the Z06 goes or you can have something that's more luxury GT high tech that's more where the e-ray goes in
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both cars are are um are very fast obviously but the you
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know the e-ray is really a car that does a lot of things well if you want it for a road car to do a lot of trips uh drive
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it more of the year with the all-wheel drive and even um you know a little bit better fuel
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efficiency things like that 306 and you can take it as a track occasionally too but Z06 if you want that race car
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experience that's the car that's the car for you so if you look at um
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as we're developing the array simultaneously because a lot of other people were working on cars with
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electrification or hybrid sports cars I think we're real really unique you compare to the you know Ferrari McLaren
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has and from McLaren both have ones and what what they have done are the Acura NSX they've done v6s right and that they
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make room with our unique architecture where we did it the we'd have a V8 and we have all-wheel drive so I think that
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really gives us an advantage versus the competitors out there that we've found a better solution yeah absolutely
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I do think um you know we talked because some customers had asked for all-wheel drive for a long time some of our
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competitors had all-wheel drive mechanical all-wheel drive and so we've been thinking about it a long time and when we started first thinking about the
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Mid Engine architecture we thought we could do a mechanical all-wheel drive and so we actually considered that we
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thought about going that way versus using the electric technology which is emerging fast you know it's quickly the
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big push for EVS around the world helps yeah develop motor efficiency and size and package and power and Battery
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efficiency and the actual weight added to the car would have been similar
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either way when you add a mechanical all-wheel drive you get no improvement
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in efficiency it actually goes the other way right you got a bunch of gears and shafts and bearings and stuff that
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you're spinning now so it all takes away from the power of the motor in the back yeah we isolate the engine in the back
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it just does what it always does and then we have this new system that does nothing but add power to the front axle
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so it harvests energy that would go to a waste normally just go into break heat you know every time you step on the
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brake if you're touching the brake in city traffic instead of heating up the friction surface wearing out your brake
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pads your stuffing energy back in the battery and to you it just feels like braking we already have electronic
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e-boost we call it and so it's seamless to you it doesn't you can't tell the difference and so it lets us do a bunch
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of tricks in this car that give the car even more bandwidth than we've ever had we always pride ourselves you can do
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this so many different things fun things with the car sure this just extends that bandwidth with all the things that
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electrification can do that's really cool so you've got the internal combustion engine the lt2 in the back
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you've got a separate electric motor in the front how and
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there like you said Taj they're separate how do you get the two to coordinate together to give that core of that
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experience it's science Wizardry Wizardry it's you know it's
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computer science is what it is you've got lots of control modules on the car and we started this car a long time ago
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and we knew this is going to be a huge Challenge and honestly we didn't know how well it was going to work out yeah it was kind of a blind alley there
28:08
wasn't like a another car out there that we could look at to say oh they did it so we should be able to do it we were
28:14
creating this and so we had to think about okay all what are all the ways all the control systems you have to have
28:20
that need to coordinate across the car to give the driver you know you're all you're doing is
28:25
hitting the accelerator and all I don't really care about I just want lots of performance and when I hit the brake I
28:30
want lots of braking and so we had to figure out how to merge these very different systems into one seamless
28:37
experience of the customer you think about internal combustion engines they change Performance Based on the temperature and humidity electric motors
28:43
don't so you've got this one that's quite stable and it's got to work in harmony this other one that's a little bit unstable and we have all these
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control systems to manage that now we put them together and you have those two things merging so you really developed
28:57
this whole thing from scratch oh yeah it was from scratch that's amazing and I talked a little bit about the chassis
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controls but the torque architecture is is modulated by a central controller
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that's looking at both internal combustion engine torque and front motor torque to provide the best driving
29:14
experience and I like Harlan said the sort of the ultimate GT car consider that the e-ray
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I would say where the e-ray and Z06 overlap is where corbetts are all good Canyon carving sort of Twisties they're
29:28
the e-ray and Z06 and that are both super fun but in a very different way the Z06 gets first of all the sound it's
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visceral sort of raw a little bit unrefined intentionally experience where
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the e-ray may have gone to charm school but they're both super fun the Z06 is your ultimate track machine
29:49
that's a that's what that car is all about and that's what it's really really good at the e-ray sort of bookends that on the
29:56
other side with this all-weather driving capability you know we're driving them all winter and Michigan the car's super
30:03
capable it opens up an area to drive and enjoy a Corvette that most customers may not have thought about before been
30:09
worried about well the weather's pretty nice but I'm going to go over a mountain pass and the weather doesn't look too good I'm Gonna Leave My Corvette at home
30:15
right you don't have to worry about that in any rate that's really cool I don't know if it was you but this is really
30:20
just a Perfect Analogy the Z06 is like the scalpel and the e-ray is like the
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Swiss army knife exactly that was you wasn't it when we were set this up with
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it with with engineering development they wanted targets and we and they wanted something to follow and and we
30:37
started looking at all the capability and it's just the car we just talked about it's a car that does a lot of things well yeah it's really good and
30:43
we're like Dad just saying the ZO6 is more point it does track it's a high performance it's it does one job but
30:50
better than anybody absolutely right all right our next question guys comes from mid-engine Corvette form I'm kind of
30:56
going back and forth between Corvette form and mid-engine Forum this is hog yld and he wants to know we hear a lot
31:03
about battery fires and phevs and EVS talk about the batteries in the new e-ray and what the steps were that were
31:10
taken to prevent fires from happening in the e-ray and Josh you had talked I think you and Taj had talked about this
31:17
in your seminar this afternoon here at the birthday bash yeah I would start out by saying the customer is buying or
31:23
considering an erase should not worry about battery fires they should worry about thank you how awesome the Corvette
31:29
is how uh an e-ray is going to enhance that experience even more but there is a
31:35
lot of testing that goes on in gmf and tell people I wish you could kind of get a peek behind the curtains we do things
31:41
to components to subsystems and to hold cars that people wouldn't even think about doing uh with their Corvette or
31:48
any car for that matter and the battery is no exception we intentionally damage the battery the internals of the battery
31:54
literally poke holes in the cells run run current through them and verify
31:59
that circuit protection and all the things that are supposed to happen in a well integrated lithium-ion High volt
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battery do their job and the e-ray was no exception in that case
32:11
um it should also be said that the battery in the e-ray is very different than the battery system in an EV which
32:18
is intended for range it's got generally a lot of energy the battery in the e-ray
32:23
is small tiny by EB standards and so that stored energy which is really the
32:30
equivalent of about seven ounces of gasoline there's not a whole lot of energy in there in the first place to to
32:37
think about fires so besides all the protection of the battery itself finally
32:42
it's housed in the most protected spot in the entire car this Central tunnel in the very center of the car it's in a
32:49
perfect spot and customers and people considering the purchase of it should never ever think
32:56
about the possibility of a battery fire that's great and uh one thing we talked about at the event here there was uh
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that the NCCC National Council Corvette clubs yes has uh welcomed the e-ray to
33:08
their autocross and track events give us a little bit more of the full story of that Harlan well I think it was just a
33:15
maybe a misunderstanding I think that they there was some concern maybe um
33:21
full EVS possibly and it was done uh something from the minutes
33:26
um was it that Murphy told me um that was done before the era was even out even what they even knew what it was
33:32
right but now you know seeing the car seeing everything of course it's a Corvette they're going to welcome it to
33:37
all the Corvette events so so it's an important thing because good if you're buying one of those you want to be
33:42
included obviously with all the other cars yes and it is just a misunderstanding so I think that's that
33:48
there'll be something out and that'll be um cleared up pretty pretty quickly
33:53
obviously and then the other thing um Mike Richard who's our lead engineer
33:59
on the e-ray he he he put some things that like that we had done half a
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million miles of testing already and we're still doing we've gone to seven tracks 1500 laps wow without any
34:11
incidents so it's been working great don't worry about your battery fire just worry if you want a scalpel or a Swiss
34:17
Army exactly there you go all right our next question guys comes from mid-engine Corvette forum it's javenous and he
34:24
wants to know if there's any chance of getting a transmission fluid life monitor added to the 2020 through 2022
34:31
C8 as maybe an over-the-air update yeah so we technically could provide an
34:39
over-the-air update for the transmission service life monitor but we consciously chose not to oh and I'll explain why
34:46
okay there was worry and based on some of the questions I would say is the worry is Justified that there would be
34:52
confusion after that update because while we could update the software in
34:57
the car to make this work technically the customer would be responsible for
35:03
its reset point oh we it would be vastly more complicated to right by each car's
35:10
individual mileage automatically adjusts that in an OTA update yeah and so we've decided to minimize confusion we're
35:17
going to treat the trans service life monitor that came out as a in the spirit
35:23
of gradual continuous Improvement but not so important or impactful that we
35:28
would want to over-the-air update older cars and cause confusion that makes sense that makes sense you guys have
35:34
thought of everything that's pretty cool that's really cool all right our next question comes from Corvette form it's rothen and rothen wants to know if is
35:41
there any situation where the battery can completely drain out on an e-ray do you need to do what do you need to do to
35:48
prevent complete battery drainage that's a good question the answer is possibly
35:53
you would have to work really really hard to do it the the battery is is
36:00
designed to to operate within very specific limits and it's constantly tailoring what it does based on how
36:06
you're driving so we did things like charge uphill so you think about uphill
36:12
in a a slippery Road where you might want to use the all-wheel drive portion
36:18
of it and you might have less opportunity to put reverse torque on the front wheels because you wouldn't want
36:24
to put reverse torque heavily on a slippery Road right um so we've we've done those very
36:29
challenging situations like miles of uphill and not drain the battery you
36:34
would have to do you know we have conditions like if you uh wanted to drift the car if you're drifting the car
36:40
Cyclones right right if you sit there and spinning like you've seen on television right that is a condition
36:47
where you could theoretically drain the battery in reality there's no real world
36:52
way that you would ever do that you couldn't do it sure so there'll be Drifters out there who maybe go find a
36:58
way to do it but it's not a regular other customer condition exactly it's an extreme and since I've done it I can
37:05
tell you what you'll experience uh you first of all that totally drained
37:11
never really really happens because we want to make sure that the caching controls I was talking about earlier are
37:17
consistent the last thing you'd want to have happen is for the car's Dynamic Behavior to change radically because
37:23
there's not enough battery energy to provide control of the car in a consistent way and so we will warn the
37:30
driver that you you know you'll see your battery life drained down it'll say no e
37:35
all-wheel drive oh that's not really true what we're saying is that e all-wheel drive for straight line
37:41
performance is not going to be let out we're going to leave a little bit to keep chassis controls and because we're doing that we're not let the letting the
37:49
horse play that ensued prior to that right continue because we're not going to let the motor provide that sort of
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power but the stated charge of the battery is constantly monitored you you
38:01
have to do these kind of juvenile you have to try to drain it really hard yeah if you do a stealth exit you can get it
38:09
really low for example if you if you're good enough with the pedal and you run it all the way until the battery is low enough and kicks on the internal
38:15
combustion engine you'll see this and you'll also see the battery state of charge climb right back up because now
38:21
we're doing what we call through the road charging once the internal combustion engine is up and running we're trying to build that battery
38:27
charge back as fast as we possibly can so what if they drive the the length of
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time that they can drive on the front motor they're still under 45 miles an hour what happens if they drain that
38:39
battery but they're still under 45 miles per hour the internal combustion engine will come on even though you're under 45
38:46
miles you will okay yeah when they the state of charge gets low enough we'll do the start sequence some people have seen
38:52
after our presentation today with that start sequence looks like once when the engine's up and running if you were to
38:57
look at your power flow gauge you'll see that even though you're driving maybe a steady state we're putting power back
39:03
into the battery because we're trying to replenish it as quickly as we possibly can so you can do your next maneuver so
39:09
it can kick in the internal combustion engine can kick in even if you're under 45 when that front motor is drained out
39:17
yeah 45 is not the only thing that'll kick in the engine okay state of charge is one your rate of throttle progression
39:22
is one okay grade there are all kinds of conditions it'll turn that off you really have thought of everything we try
39:28
that's great the battery is extremely protective of itself the whole system so you have to try to trick the systems to
39:35
get it to do some to get even close to a lower state of charge so it'll turn the internal combustion engine on if it
39:42
needs to and we actually only use a fraction a surprisingly small fraction of the battery's total capability we
39:48
sort of operate in the middle between fully charged and fully depleted so when the gauges look like they're fully
39:54
depleted that's fully depleted of what you are allowed to use oh in your driving condition there actually is more
40:00
Headroom above which you can access sometimes and more Headroom below gotcha okay that's good that's good to know
40:06
only a little more than half of the total capacity we're using all right our last question in segment two comes from
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Corvette form as well it's from Ricker Rich it's probably Richard 25.91 he says
40:19
he misses not having the rear trunk lock underneath the license plate why don't
40:24
we have that on the 2023s Tad you're laughing go ahead you start I I got this question today and my first
40:31
question to richard2591 is whether he'd actually ever used it or not
40:36
um that was something we had on the C7 on the C7 right it made a lot of sense yes um if you had a dead battery and you
40:43
want to get into the interior of the car the hatch is a big opening you could
40:49
open it mechanically you could climb in climb through to the front open the doors with the mechanical latch right so
40:55
that was a vehicle access strategy sure for C8 you can't get into the interior
41:00
of the car when you open the hatch so we have a latch or a key cylinder that's hidden in the quarter panel that gives
41:06
you access to the occupant compartment so the store yeah yeah to the door it'll open the door for you and so that's the
41:13
reason we have the key cylinder the one in the back really only gives you access to what's in the trunk so a lot of people ask well geez what I have to
41:20
charge my battery well if you charge your battery a lot of people don't realize after decades and generations of
41:26
having the battery in the back the battery is actually in the front everything's reversed on a mid-engine car so we put the battery in the front
41:32
so the sequence is you have lost your battery power no 12 volt power at all use the mechanical key open the door
41:39
then there's a pull cable under the steering column before that'll pop the frunk now you have access to the battery
41:46
you can get a jump you can charge it whatever and then you're full up and you can open the hatch so we didn't really
41:51
see a use case left for this right and so it's extra mass in cost that we saw
41:57
fit to get rid of it's a it's a vestigial and I thought it was only there at first because it was a similar
42:02
menu manufacturing was using it because of the C7 process and later they realized they didn't need it yeah that
42:09
was a part of the reason there there was a few reasons for I would call it Legacy to be kept into the car we you've heard
42:15
us say a lot that every gram has to earn its way onto the car right that earned its way on and then it earned its way
42:22
off it got kicked off an island and I know people out there oh you guys did it for cost cutting well it yeah it
42:28
saved a little bit of money we really did it for the mass we've it turns out the weight of that part it's got steel
42:34
tumblers inside of it's on a cast housing there's a big steel bracket that holds the part itself and then there's a
42:39
steel cable that goes through the tub a potential leak path into the tub through a grommet there's just a bunch
42:45
of baggageways but the the mass of it was more valuable to us than the actual peace cost of the components that we got
42:51
rid of and it allows things like when we when we take that off now that mass can
42:56
be spent on things like a cinching hood in 2024. mass is very important to court
43:02
it always has been sure and then and we have a carefully kept I would call it a formula because it's not the same for
43:08
every car for every place and the real practical use case for this was really
43:13
for a technician it's underneath it's buried under a license plate sure I know somebody say well I can take a quarter out of my pocket I don't know who
43:19
carries change anymore but you'd have to have pop by forearms it's still pretty tough sure to get the license plate off
43:25
what I think caused some I'll call it internet confusion is that there
43:32
there was a potential failure in the latch that would prevent even the key
43:39
from opening the latch wow we found it on one poor car
43:44
and so there was a service procedure created and it turned into a bulletin and it
43:49
never should have the service procedure because that particular car was full of stuff in the trunk we couldn't use what
43:57
I'll describe here in a second we had to literally drill a hole in the hatch with a hole saw and unbolt the striker and
44:04
open the panels wow very sad day for that car people saw that in the deletion of the
44:10
key cylinder and tied the two together they have nothing actually removing the key cylinder if this should ever happen again allows
44:18
easier access if the trunk is full of luggage because you put a small hole in the tub right where the key cylinder was
44:24
now it's not obstructed by a piece of Steel right you put a hook through it and you can pop it open and then you
44:29
plug the hole in the tub with a with a a patch yeah the service official service
44:35
procedure on a convertible is just like a slim jim through a door it's easy and
44:40
you pull the interior trunk release on a coupe you loosen the rear wheel aligner
44:46
and dislodge The Grommet for the body harness okay and get the slim jim through there and pop it open these are
44:52
super rare this is not a normal you this is up for a latch that has this rare failure not a dead battery yeah so
44:59
people should not mourn its loss they should celebrate the fact that now they don't carry around this never used dead
45:05
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questions from mid-engine Corbett form and Corvette forum in this third and final segment John elegant we'll start
48:31
off with another question from John he says Josh would you personally choose to drive an e-ray or a Z06 if you're going
48:39
to the grocery store a spirited country Drive taking your wife out for dinner or going for a haircut I think we should
48:45
start with you Josh and everybody can answer all right well I would say it's Mission specific yes yes depends on
48:53
where I'm going but uh they're both awesome My ultimate would be to have
48:58
both why not both what's wrong with both why who said a rule you can only have one Corvette I like the way you think
49:03
buddy yeah so uh We've touched on this already and both are really good but in
49:10
different ways at the mission of Corvette um uh Z06 is excels at its specific
49:17
mission of of track work so if I was going to a track day and uh doing
49:23
something that um I wanted that all-out feel and performance I would I would choose the
49:28
Z06 uh maybe if I was going on a long drive didn't know what the weather might
49:34
hold or what the situation might be yeah I would I would pick an e-ray but they're all super capable they're both
49:41
every bit the mission of Corvette and there is no wrong choice that's right you feel the same question we'll all
49:48
answer more or less the same way what we're doing yeah in some cases depends on who we're going to see
49:55
um you know I I have friends who might be completely blown away by an e-ray if
50:01
I showed up silently right you know there'd be things that you could do that would
50:07
really impress some people they're very different characters and cars but they all they both have tremendous bandwidth if I was going to hammer by myself in a
50:14
car if I was just going out for the peak Driving Experience it's Z06 absolutely if you have open road ahead of you but
50:22
if I'm going on a long trip perhaps with my wife like Josh said you're not sure of the weather it's going to be Ray
50:27
Every Day absolutely all right Harlan you're up next yeah it's funny because it's almost like
50:32
a a heart versus brain decision like your heart like wants to see you know because the engine really thinks to you
50:39
but if you only could have if I go to that I know like Josh it has a great adventure I have both but if you
50:45
really could only have one I would say for me actually the e-rate does more thing you know if I like to drive across
50:52
the country like to drive it all year I never want to be the one that puts the car away for the winter so the e-ray
50:57
kind of fits what I would like to do but I do love the Z06 it's kind of you know we were trying to find personas I don't
51:04
know if this will resonate with everybody but I'm I'm like a I'm like a say a Star Trek I like watching Star
51:10
Trek so to me it's kind of like Kirk versus Spock like Kirk is very emotional he's physical very passionate you know
51:18
to me he'd be like the Z06 driver right where Spock is very logical because they're still very strong silicon a hero
51:25
in his way he would probably be scientific that would be the e-ray right personality good analogy I like that I
51:33
didn't know you're a Star Trek fan oh sure now the haircut it got in there but I think if I'm going to get a haircut
51:39
I'm going to drive somebody else's card because I'm usually shedding after a haircut
51:47
so it doesn't matter well see I got a haircut once and I cut it short and look what happened I hate it when that
51:54
happens all right let's go to the next question guys this is from Corvette forum and this is Jean fume and John
51:59
wants to know if the e-ray will be sold in Europe will it be homologated and compatible with Euro 7 exhaust Norms it
52:07
will be sold in Europe nice it will be sold under if we're going to get technical about European requirements
52:13
it's Euro 6D at the moment okay that's its uh whole vehicle you know type approval certification uh of course as
52:21
regulation changes uh throughout the globe we will meet those regulations
52:26
wherever possible but right now we're planning to sell the e-ray in Europe and right hand drive for the UK as well very
52:33
nice yeah and it's it's not a huge lift for us we already homologate the stingray over there so same engine we
52:40
have the exhaust treatment required for over there it's almost a plug and play you calibration work but it's a a
52:46
relatively low hanging fruit to make sure your ray can go into the market it's an easy it's an easy step isn't it
52:52
yeah that's great relatively all right let's go to the next one it's from Corvette form it's 6870 vet he wants to
52:58
know when will the 2024 model colors interior colors and options come out
53:04
he'd like to start planning right away Harlan today we just announced them all today we have
53:09
the three actually actually when the e-ray came out we showed the three new colors that we have and uh we go over
53:15
then we have the riptide blue we have the cacti green and the Sea Wolf Gray tri-coat yes our new exteriors and we
53:23
also have a new Artemis leather interior which we have shown here with the cat
53:28
we've shown on the cacti erase show car which goes with that really nicely a lot of people like that because it's
53:34
beautiful just beautiful that's great and so the I think what they're getting at with this question though is that
53:40
that applies to all not just e-ray but the stingray and Z06 as well those new colors and new Interiors as well and we
53:48
did announce a couple other things today we talked about the safety features right and the one I think convertible
53:54
people are going to be excited about is our new convertible appearance engine window option where you can lift the
53:59
Tonneau and now see your beautiful either lt2 engine and a stingray array
54:05
or the lt6 in this Z06 glad you came out engine cover options and things like
54:11
that that's great really excited and we're recording on Friday April 28th so now you can go online he might have been
54:16
asking about pricing as well he wants to start planning he says yeah pricing is still a little we we did
54:22
announce the e-ray prices already and the other 24 prices will come out a little bit closer to ordering the summer
54:28
and you and I did a podcast on the e-ray specifically so that was covered back then as well so we'll see that that's
54:34
great our final question comes from Lucky W on Corvette forum he says are there any plans for an official lap time
54:41
at the Nurburgring for the Z06 no so
54:47
so uh and cats can elaborate we all can talk about Nurburgring so we we
54:53
obviously spend a lot of time at Nurburgring and we get well publicized photographs of us doing our mission
54:59
specific work at Nurburgring and I used the term Mission specific because that mission is to develop the car at that
55:05
track that offers all kinds of things in one location that you can't really get
55:10
anywhere else when we did the work on the Z06 and the e-ray and many Corvettes throughout the
55:17
past it's become increasingly difficult to get open track time weather and all
55:24
the other factors to cooperate in the most perfect way possible to get a lap time so if those Confluence of factors
55:32
all come together we would go and and try to get a lap time right it's never actually really
55:39
been our mission to go try to do that um we're not done going to Nurburgring
55:44
uh so if we're back there again and then the stars align we would likely make
55:49
another attempt um but that's why there isn't uh Z06 lap time it's not because we don't want it
55:56
it's just not the sole reason to go to Nurburgring yeah that makes sense you have to think how different it is for us
56:01
as a North American manufacturer versus the Europeans where it's in their backyards exactly they can look at the
56:07
weather they can be there in a day's notice right we have to pack up shipping containers a month in advance to get all
56:15
our stuff over there to like to do our development work and so we focus on the industry days where the industry the
56:21
oems can come and do their test work right so we know there's a window where we're going to be able to have a week or
56:28
more test work done so we focus on those days and sometimes we're rained out there's no doubt or whatever exactly we
56:34
make the effort to ship all the stuff over make all the arrangements fly everybody over there so it is a huge
56:40
effort so it's not like we can spur of the moment okay looks like conditions are great next week let's start the track we just don't have that kind of
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lead time so we have to get really really lucky when we have every all the person the hell the cars everything has
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to line up with the weather and we've been quite unlucky I would say you know we never did it in C7 right we ran into
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all kinds of obstacles in fact that track has changed hands and the rules have changed so it's been a tough
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negotiation so it can't be the top priority for us because we spend all our time and resources doing it so we have
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to kind of hope to get lucky someday we'll we'll do it if we get a chance if the Stars online and we're happy to share those uh when we can but we can't
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make it our primary Mission but if people are looking for bragging rights you know Car and Driver just did their
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lightning lap at VIR and it's a more not point in our backyard but at least it's on the same continent and we did very
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well on the lane up right fifth best and that's a third party test and that's a
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third party not not true drivers and unsupervised cars that could be stock
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you could be close to stock I'm not saying anything I'm just saying that's not uh litmus test you don't have yeah
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same cars same day same driver kind of ranking of performance and and we know
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at least really closely what the Z06 will do on the Nurburgring we're we're not going to advertise it because we
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don't have that video stringed Along on one lap we've got segment times and that's just not the authentic way we
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would ever publish a Nurburgring lap time and you got if you think about when we're at Nurburgring it's you know most
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of the way into our development cycle we're not all done right so we're there learning and still tuning the car it's
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not really a fair assessment during that Loop of tuning when the car isn't even completely finished to then try to get a
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lap time because we're we're still making the car quicker we can Arrow tweaking chassis exactly you're also
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seeing online there was one recently at the French track the fact that Europeans have not done you know race over over
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there driving car and you you if people are looking I think a lot of people okay Nurburgring is cool but I think a lot of
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people want to see how the Z06 compare with the best in the world right and there's a lot of attachments and
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independent people putting a and we're really doing well against high-end competition absolutely right can the Z06
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get any better I don't know that'd be tough it's pretty good it's really good it's pretty darn
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good yeah well guys thank you so much for taking the time out of your day here
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at the Michelin NCM bash to do this it's been so much fun having you on getting people's questions answered we'll have
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to do it maybe we'll make it an annual event oh here we go all right we'll say an extra bash is an annual
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events yeah all right guys thanks again for everything I appreciate you being here thanks Steve thank you thanks for
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