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CORVETTE TODAY #80-Meet Famed Corvette Race Driver, Andy Pilgrim!
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May 8, 2025
If you're a fan of Corvette Racing, you'll absolutely love this podcast! Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, sits down with famed Corvette Racing driver, Andy Pilgrim, to discuss his illustrious career. Andy takes you back to his days in Great Britain, where he started racing motorcycles. He tells you how he got to the United States and how he got invited to be part of the Corvette Racing team. Pilgrim talks about his 20+ years racing, his time at Le Mans and much more. It's an intriguing listen about one of the drivers who helped kick on Corvette Racing on the CORVETTE TODAY podcast!
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corvette racing history as a matter of fact he was part of corvette racing's first win in the year 2000 he's a race
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car driver he's a journalist he's also a member of the corvette hall of fame he is mr andy pilgrim andy welcome to
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corvette today thanks so much steve it's a pleasure to be here i'm looking forward to it this is going to be
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fantastic andy let's start and talk about your early beginnings because you were born in nottingham england talk
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about those early beginnings there in the uk and what was the moment when you realized that you were a car guy
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that's interesting well i think the first yeah nottingham england let's say cold
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wet miserable great education lovely city lovely people i love going back
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there so really enjoyed growing up there but there was never going to be economic opportunities for me to race so
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essentially but where the interest came in into cars was just when i was a little kid for whatever reason i was
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just absolutely enamored with cars it was just one of those things as a young child i was just enamored with course i
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was just fascinated with cars and at a very young age i could name cars and pointed at cars and ran after cars if
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they look like sports cars i'd run away from my mom and go running after the car you know it's just crazy but i just had
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a tremendous interest in it but there wasn't any kind of car interest in my family at all they probably thought i
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was left at the hospital wrong kid or something you know right that was good yeah now you want a lot of british
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titles in motorcycle racing talk about some of those achievements andy yeah the way it works in england is you've got
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some sort of club championships there are some very old clubs in england that have been around and when i started
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racing motorcycles essentially what that meant was i had a secondhand very old motorcycle i wanted to try to race and
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when i was earning money around 21 years old i came out of college as a computer programmer so i started earning money
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and essentially used that money to put numbers on my old motorcycle and just literally go to the racetrack whether it
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was me riding to the racetrack which when you're road racing is ridiculous or i had a friend with a van who would drop
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me off at the racetrack after he finished doing his bread round so that's where it started essentially so i won
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several club championships which are not easy when it's a club championship it means that people come from all over the country to do it it's just organized by
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one of the british racing clubs and then as far as british championships i finished second in two sort of british
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championships which was the kh-400 series and a british 500 production championship but for two and a half
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years i did motorcycle racing before i essentially got a job offer in the united states as a computer program yeah
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you took a very interesting path to get to america because you were in the i.t field in the 80s and you were snapped up
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by a u.s contractor talk about getting that first job in the united states with general motors yeah i was very lucky in
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the sense that when i first got my job in it out of college i was sort of more
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interested in sticking numbers on my motorcycle because i now had a paycheck and starting to race little did i know i
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was at one of the most intensive places you could work in i.t at a place called
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midland household stores and what it was back in the old days they had these huge telephone book size catalogs and
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essentially we were the it for the catalog companies in the uk and we processed all these people you could
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like buy a pencil on higher purchase and i'm not kidding i mean you could buy anything in these cathodes they were
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massive i was part of the credit scoring group and that credit scoring group was
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actually working with an american company and there was like eight of us in that group and we were at the
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absolute cutting edge of credit scoring which didn't exist so i was one of the first people one of the first programs
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involved in the credit scoring systems in the world and we were working with ibm we had access to the british
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electoral role which we were the only outside the government we're the only company that had that so we had this
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really cutting edge and i was like the youngest kid just come out of college and i was the youngest one in the group
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but after two and a half years there the guys were always looking for jobs and the us at that time didn't have enough
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i.t programmers which actually still doesn't and i was looking for a job sort of thought well you know might be really
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interested i've always wanted to come to the states and sort of to try and work here and lo and behold programming was
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the way to go and i just didn't realize it when i got into programming that that would be the case but there you go i got
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a job offer i applied got an offer and came to the us now i was a contractor so
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essentially i came over with abc company an abc company then placed me at my
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first contract which was as you rightly said pontiac division in general motors in pontiac michigan yeah and i was there
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for a year before i moved somewhere else but it was always like one-year contracts or something like that oh gotcha okay now that did lead to your
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second contract job in el paso texas yes yes it did talk about that and how you
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kind of got into racing here in america yeah the sales guy for the company i was
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working with was a marketing guy he'd always come around to him pontiac and he says oh how you doing i said well you got any other jobs like outside of
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pontiac and he said why i said because it's freezing here so it was like honestly and he said um
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okay let me get back to you and he said how about el paso texas and i said is it warm there he said yeah yeah it's warm
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you'll love it so essentially i got in my 500 chevy malibu classic and basically started driving south
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and uh went from like minus 40 degrees in february to 75 degrees in el paso i
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mean i thought i'd got a job on the riviera i remember getting the phone plugged in
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and calling my mom and just saying mom i can see clear blue sky and it's 75 degrees outside i'm in heaven you know
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it's like this is amazing so that was el paso working for el paso natural gas at the time again as a contractor yeah now
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didn't that get you into racing down there in texas then it did it did in a very strange way so again racing's
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always been economic space right so i got into racing in england when i could afford it and likewise in 1983 when i
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was in el paso i still had my chevy but volkswagen came out with if you remember the rabbit gti yes and of course every
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kid in europe just ogled after a gti in europe and they'd had it for a long time but the us hadn't had it now it was a
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pretty much a milk down gti the one that came over here was only 90 horsepower it was a little bit of a different gti but
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it was still a gti right so i got one and i was coming down i-10 which is basically runs all the way through el
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paso and i was going past the sila vista mall which is right there on the east side of el paso and i'm looking to the
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right and i saw this c3 corvette at the time it would be a c3 flying across this parking lot like at 60 miles an hour and
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it was in cones and i was like what the heck is that so i went off the freeway went around the back and lo and behold
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that was an scca autocross going on and that's what started it on my website i still have a picture of my black gti in
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a open area where they had like a school parking lot it was from el paso actually you got like a three-wheeled gti it's a
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picture somebody took of me doing an autocross in el paso in 1983 and that was scca and that was sort of what
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started any kind of four-wheel competition that was the first time very nice now you also became a us citizen in
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1998 yes that had to be a thrill as well yes definitely this country has given me
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so many incredible opportunities and wanting to do things professionally essentially that was the opportunities
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that america has given me whether it was starting my business whether it was getting into racing professionally the avenues are open here you have to work
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hard you have to make some smart moves you have to stay focused so when i became a citizen it was extremely
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emotional for me it really was every group i speak to now whether it's traffic safety related or whether it's
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marketing stuff that i'm doing i'm very proud to tell people that this country has given me incredible opportunities
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and it's something i'm very very grateful for that's awesome andy well let's take a quick break and in segment
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number two we're gonna delve deep into your racing career we're talking with andy pilgrim famed corvette racer here
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this is the corvette today podcast with steve garrett
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hey thanks for listening to corvette today the podcast that talks about everything corvette i'm your host steve
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garrett with us today is fame corvette racer andy pilgrim in the second segment we're going to talk about andy's racing
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career andy you started over 456 races in your career you've won 80 races in 37
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seasons and five championships with over 202 podium finishes you've had 400 top
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10 finishes which is over 90 percent of your races and you finished in the top 10. talk about some of the highlights in
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your racing career well steve you've definitely done your homework amazing i don't think i knew those numbers are
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certainly not the top of my head incredible gosh so many high points steve your first win your first podium
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in pro racing which was in the renault cup series in 1984 which was my first year racing because as i think i
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mentioned the first segment there was no way i was just going to run for trophies i couldn't afford to do that and i just
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wanted to see if i was going to be any good and push it all the way to the limit so that was my first podium my
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first pro win was the pontiac trans am in the firestone firehawk series which was very memorable that was at sears
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point raceway a real driver's track so that was kind of cool to win at sears in 86 first championship of course is
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memorable 1995. again that was actually with pontiac in the speed vision cup series it sort of goes on from there
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factory related rides with porsche and bmw in factory linked teams and then a
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full factory ride of course in the corvette program i mean so many so many opportunities and then cadillac's
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factory program last but not least chevrolet camaro program in 2018 to have
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a factory contract when you're in your 60s is quite ridiculous actually my hat is off to you my friend my hat is off to
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you now andy you've also raced in the corvette racing series back in the late 80s and the early 90s
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talk about when you joined corvette racing in 1999 and also talk about your
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famous race partners yes the corvette challenge series was spectacular it's such a shame it only lasted two years
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going back there that was an amazing series we could talk for hours on that alone i love the fact that i was part of
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that series had some great races and some great met some superb famous i mean johnny bruntford i mean people like that
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i mean how on earth could i race against johnny rutherford in anything other than a corvette series i mean the man was an
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indycar legend and a lovely guy by the way lovely guy as well but going into corvette racing that opportunity sort of
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came about doug feehan who has been the legendary team manager for corvette racing until very very recently all the
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way through he gave me a call i was driving with porsche related teams at the time this was in 1998 and he asked
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me whether i'd be interested in being considered for a corvette racing program that was just getting started he said
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the opportunity for 1999 would be three races only i was obviously like hell yes
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please so you know it was like please consider me i tested the car first in 1998 in
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november at road atlanta i remember many of the guys were there the ron fellows chris neither john heinrich i think
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scott sharp and others everybody was sort of getting in there or being tested and things like that and i was luckily
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one of the people that managed to get into the team for 1999 when they started
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ron and chris knifel did a full season in one of the cars the other guys like
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john heinrich kelly collins scott show up and myself we would add in and i
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think john paul jr as well actually we would add in for the longer races essentially that's how the program
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started in 1999. lo and behold 21 years later still going strong absolutely
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right and you also raced with dale earnhardt senior and junior as well as kelly collins yes kelly was my regular
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teammate in 2000 there was a pass that i made in petit le mans which was in covet
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folklore has become called the pilgrim pass that pass got noticed by dale earnhardt it ended up being the pass of
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the week on rpm tonight and he actually contacted me and congratulated me if you can believe on that pass and said
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basically that pass is exactly why i want you to be my teammate for next year's rolex 24 hours of course i know
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had never been contacted by dale owner i had no idea there was any thought or contact or any anything about the
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possibility of this 24-hour race with the earnhardt's at that point so i was incredibly excited and immediately told
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by the team manager yeah well you can't say anything oh my gosh so it was like we're going to
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announce it in about two and a half weeks and we're going to mooresville north carolina and the whole thing is going to be you dale jr and dale we went
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over there we had a great time and so many stories from that first day when i
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met the guy it's incredible a lot of fun great guy very humble actually and funny
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fun mischievous and just enjoying life to the full we had a great time there he began the
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process the first test we had at sebring that's when i suggested to dale that
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kelly collins would be a good addition and he said well let me think about it and then kelly came to the test they'd
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never run in the wet much and so luckily dale matt kelly and of course he thought
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kelly was great and kelly came in as the fourth driver so a small point there that people have the clean cars the
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clean cars were done early on in this sort of program and they only had three names on them
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but when the dirty car came out after the race it had all four names on it because it was that wasn't a mistake it
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was because at that time kelly wasn't in there but he was added on later which is why you don't see kelly's name on the
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clean models that came out of the corvette piece of trivia there for people that might be listening very
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interesting but so many memories from those guys they were both wonderful both did really well the biggest thing for
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them was breaking they were just blown away by how late you could break for the bus stop at daytona how late you could
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break on the infield for any of the international horseshoe or any of that stuff it was just so different from the
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nascar and having done a little tiny bit of nascar i understand why essentially the nascar cars weigh 3 500 pounds and
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they don't have big brakes right and the tires are made for taking incredible
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amounts of punishment on the banking and they're not super grippy they're made to last with a very very heavy car at 200
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miles an hour and we don't have that in road racing in the same way because the cars are much lighter and all the rest
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of it but once they got used to the brakes they were both super quick but as it turned out in the race there was a
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tremendous amount of rain and it was really really good that we had kelly there as the fourth driver because kelly
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and i did quite a bit of rain driving and junior really had very little experience and he was able to do what he
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needed to do but it was great to have kelly there very cool now you also race at the 24 hours of le mans with corvette
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racing and porsche as a matter of fact you had five podium finishes talk about that because i'm sure racing at le mans
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had to be one of the highlights of your career 100 le mans is a very special place i never
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dreamed that i would actually end up racing there one day 1996 they came about there was a team being put
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together and i got an opportunity to run with a new zealand team called the new hardware team and there were two porsche
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911 turbos and we had a the team did well we got second place for one car and we got fourth place in class very
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competitive in those races and then in 97 i ran with a different team the rook racing team and we ended up coming
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second that year and that gave me some experience at le mans which i think was instrumental or certainly one of the
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factors in me getting the call from corvette the fact that i'd actually been to le mans and in 97 actually qualified
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on the class poll in pre-qualifying which was pretty amazing as well just an amazing opportunity for them to ask me
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to qualify and then i ended up on the poll pre-qualifying which was a big thing back then which was pretty cool very cool yeah so it was definitely an
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advantage and i didn't win le mans it's the only major that i haven't won like rolex 12 hours of sebring and petite of
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the other three are sports car majors kind of like golf mages if you like but being on that podium is just so special
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because you're so far above the front straightaway and at the end of the race there's a hundred and fifty thousand people on the front straightaway because
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at le mans there's like close to 350 000 people and most of them are on the front
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straightaway and they allow them onto the track after the race so it's so many wonderful memories of that race it's
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incredible and on the friday there's a parade where all the drivers get to go on old cars and you go through the town
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and again there's a hundred plus hundreds of thousands of people in the town for the parade group and it's
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incredible incredible stuff they do love their racing in le mans france that's for sure absolutely andy talk about this
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i know that you raced with dale senior and kelly collins at the 24 hours of daytona and you won that race three
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times and then after daytona dale senior promised to get you into nascar talk
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about your racing with dale jr and dale senior and getting into nascar yeah
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racing with them dale and i had become buddies over the four months we'd become friends he would call me up and say hey
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andy what kind of mopeds should i buy for my boat it was just normal kind of conversations
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between two mates you know it wasn't the fact that he said to me i'm going to get you a nascar he had actually told other
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people oh and he told dale junior that wow dale and junior had spoken about
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something like that i think at some point after the race i was not part of
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that conversation huh so there was a lot of things that i had didn't know about till sadly after he passed away uh steve
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crisp who was dale's right-hand guy for like 13 14 years i love steve crisp he's one of the best guys period such a small
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guy we've remained friends over the years and steve was the one who explained some things to me about how
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there was how he didn't have that many friends you know he had people that he knew but he didn't have any friends neil
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bonnett was a very close friend of his and when he lost neil bonnett there weren't that many people close to him you know so it was steve that sort of
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gave me a lot more insight and he was the one that told me that andy you don't know that when we got back from the race
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dale had already told me to start clearing out the trophy room and he said this is going to be where we're going to
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put the corvettes wow and this is like this will be the car that me and andy race
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and steve's i said so dale is going to retire from nascar but he wanted to go sports car racing and supposedly he'd
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asked theresa to say hey is it all right if i go racing with andy i mean andy didn't know anything about
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any of this wow but it was sort of an ongoing background thing i learned about it from steve after dale passed away and
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then i spoke to theresa later and she confirmed it and also another friend of mine who'd had dinner with theresa
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confirmed it it was quite amazing actually about the fact that he would potentially go corvette racing he would
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potentially want to do it with me it's just an incredible part of the story but the nascar connection then going from
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that dale and dale cena had had a conversation on airplane which was sort of referred to in a letter that dale had
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sent me after the race thanking me and all the rest of it was really nice letter which i still have so i was
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playing golf something that i love to do and i've done like once in the last seven years but i was actually playing
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golf back in 2007 junior called me on the phone and he said hey andy what are you doing and i said i'm just playing
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golf mate can i call you back he says well i got something kind of important you know it's like i said oh oh okay so
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yeah no hang on a minute so i sort of walk away and i said yeah yeah what's going on he said well i just want to ask
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you a quick question are you interested in running a couple of nascar bush races in my navy car coming up canada and
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watkins glen road course races and i said yeah and he said that phone call is something that dad and i spoke about and
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i want to repay the debt wow and i was like oh okay and that was it then of course that
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ruined my gold game which didn't take much ruining anyway but it was like this is like i was so excited about it and
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yes that's where the two navy races came from in 2007 which was great i mean
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great opportunity all road racers i think or most of them have a bucket list thing like i wish i could do a nascar
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race and luckily i did two bush races and i also got to do one spring cup in 2011. so again those are the bucket
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listings you'd like to check off as a road racer if you get that opportunity absolutely right also in 2004 through
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2008 you drove for cadillac in the speed world championship challenge and you won
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that race in 2005. talk about the differences between racing for cadillac and racing for corvette well funnily
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enough raising cadillac and corvette was almost like the same thing in a way oh because the cars were all built by pratt
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miller engineering and some of the same guys that were working on the corvettes were brought over to that new budding
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cadillac team and so some of the same guys that were working on the car and some of the same engineers and so it was
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actually like old home week amazingly so yeah in 2003 there was a test at road
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atlanta again funnily enough i ended up being picked my teammate was max angelelli and that started in 2004 and i
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was there for 2004 till eight and then again the second time around johnny o'connell 2011 through 2015. fantastic
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opportunity another factory program with gm racing also in 2009 and 2010 you
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drove for kpax racing you moved back to cadillac from 2011 to 2015 what races
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did you do for k-pacs and then what races did you do when you returned to cadillac so cadillac had always been in
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this world challenge series which was essentially was the premium production-based gt series in america at
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the time which has now become the sro championship which along with weathertech are looked
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at as the premium gt series in the us of course weathertech also has prototypes but they're the sort of the two premiere
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series so essentially cadillac wanted to be in the premiere gt championship and corvette were always running in the sort
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of the imsa side of things as opposed to the scca pro racing side of things which is where cadillac was so essentially it
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was just two sides of the same deal with cadillac it was always in that championship just different generations
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the first generation car ended in 2008 and also gm had some hiccups in 2008 and
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so what happened was i thought well don't have a job amazingly the phone rings and i get a call from jim hughey
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at capex saying hey would you like to have an opportunity with volvo randy post was my teammate they were building
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these new turbocharged all-wheel drive volvos which would also run in the world
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channel series and that was also a factory connected project with volvo so it ended up being another sort of
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semi-factory team deal really for two years we did that going into 2011 or the
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end of 2010 i got another phone call on gm saying hey we're putting the band back together
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johnny o'connell is coming across from corvette kind of like i did in 2004 right and he'd be your teammate it's
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like oh that's going to be great so it was like end of the season jim who was extremely nice about it and said andy i
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totally understand you were with them before we wish you all the best and see you on track very nice so it worked really well and i
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ended up going back to the cadillac operation there and johnny and i just had so much fun with johnny as a teammate for five years it was great
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that's fantastic well andy let's take our final break and when we come back in segment number three we're going to talk
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corvette today the podcast that talks about everything corvette i'm your host steve garrett with me is fame corvette
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race driver andy pilgrim in this third and final segment we're going to talk about some of the other things andy is
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doing outside the racing world andy first of all you are also an accomplished writer you've written for
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automobile magazine how did you get started doing that thanks to a guy called mac morrison mack was with auto
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week he and i got together gosh over 20 years ago now doing some cadillac stuff
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he was at a place in michigan called gingerman raceway which you may or may not know of and we were just doing some
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testing there and mack was there as a journalist i was there as a test driver
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and mac and i got chatting and we sort of became buddies and became a bit friendly with that stuff lo and behold a
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year or two down the road it was like hey andy we're going to test a z06 corvette at the racetrack are you
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interested in coming to doing some stuff for us and you can do the testing and then also we did some testing with a
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camaro and a gt3 and other things so it became one of those things that
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relationship with mac on a work basis and having fun with mac at some of these trips when he moved to automobile
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magazine then he said hey we might need someone to do some writing and also we can do some other stuff and that's where
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essentially that came from so it's for six years since 2015 i think was my first writing assignment for automobile
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and the last one was last year in 2020 when autumn beale basically shut down the prince magazine right but i'd also
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done some vehicle review videos for them which i set up called this thing called
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pro racers take series which is automobile related and of course audible now really is motor trend it's kind of
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the same thing now right there's like 38 vehicle reviews and other things there so that was all again related to
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automobile as well i'm not a journalist trained but mack morrison said write something let's see what's what she
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basically said look your stuff is good keep doing what you're doing and again honestly that was a bucket list thing
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for me to possibly get into a print magazine that was respected nationally circulate internationally circulated and
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write a real article about it that was what i wanted to do i didn't just want to be a guy pressing pedals and setting
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a lap time and nothing you know i like the idea of writing mac has given me those opportunities and now actually
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i've moved over to cnet part of the cnet roadshow team which is fairly recent but
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i've done a couple of videos already at one prince magazine article so very nice now i know you had mentioned that you
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had done some video reviews of some cars what kind of cars did you get to review well you can start with really expensive
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like the mclaren center and you can end up at the other end of the spectrum with one of the most
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beautifully designed small cars in my humble opinion the master iii and so we've gotten from the sublime to the
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ridiculous pretty much in that series so super fast to super fun now you also
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have your own company andy it's called the traffic safety education foundation yes talk about the foundation the
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foundation came about with my interest in trying to give back i had been very
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fortunate coming over to this country to be able to start up a little business in 1989 with very little money and it took
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off like a single engine cessna dragon an elephant over the first two years but it finally took off and that business
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kept going for quite a while when that business was going quite well and racing was going well it was time to give back
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so in the mid 90s i started to think about traffic safety as a potential way to go i was aware that the american
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driving test was not anything close to european standards as far as a driving test which of course isn't helpful when
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it comes to survival and just being a good driver and generally being able to merge not merge understand to use your
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mirrors and every all those other wonderful things and it sort of sprung from that understanding first of all
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talking to students all around the country at various schools i'm only one person and this was something that i
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needed to get to more people then i started making educational videos and essentially i've done five full-length
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educational videos with hundreds of small chapters so the driver education teachers and parents with kids of all
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ages by the way once you turn your child's safety seat around to face front that 18 months or two-year-olds is
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actually learning driving habits and behaviors from watching you drive parents just so you know 15 years old or
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16 is about 13 years too late when you start thinking about driver education so understand that when they're in the car
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which is only about 10 to 15 of the time after they start school just put the phone away and hands-free driving is not
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safe very true also you were inducted into the corvette hall of fame in 2012
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that had to be a huge thrill yes corvette hall of fame was fantastic
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unexpected and just a wonderful thing because the corvette program has been such a great program just the idea of
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getting that kind of recognition my mum actually is quite funny when i told her in 2012 she said well
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that's really nice to you i thought normally when you got inducted into those kinds of things you had to be dead
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typical english person so it was quite funny but it's a great honor it is a great honor corvette was one of the
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first sports cars that i was aware of outside british type cars when i was
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young the corvette is just so internationally known and then to be in the corvette hall of fame is a super
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honor it's great it's great fun definitely and you live in bowling green kentucky now talk about the association
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you have with the national corvette museum and the ncm motorsports park essentially three and a half years ago
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now i was in the middle of selling my i.t company which at that point was 29 years old and i was ready and i was
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based always in south florida my foundation was growing i could do the journalistic stuff from anyway i could
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do the race driving stuff from anywhere i had some interest from two locations one in oregon and one in california on
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the west coast to base my foundation there because they could do more community service with it they
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understood that i was nationally doing things for traffic safety so that was sort of going forwards somebody at the
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corvette museum heard about this the president heard about it from a board member said hey andy pilgrim's moving
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blah blah why if he's doing this if he can do this on the west coast maybe we should ask him if he wants to do it in bowling green long story short four
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months of negotiation later i end up being a consultant here to help wherever
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they want me to help essentially i do traffic safety education stuff from the motor source park which my foundation
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has to pay for but the point is it gives me a facility it gives me classrooms that i can rent gives me a paddock area
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that i can rent so i do the traffic safety work there and also i can do whatever else i need to do and that's it
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essentially i said yep let's make a deal and i've been here for years i just extended the contract for another three years and that's how essentially i got
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to bowling green very nice i can do everything else from here yeah and it's been great it's been great it's been really nice great people very nice andy
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you also have your own website talk about the url and what people will find on the website and how someone can get
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in touch with you you can always get in touch with me through the website i am on social media i won't say i'm active
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every day on social media because i'm just honestly it's just too busy i'm there to sort of inform certain things
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when things happen if i can but i'm on social media as well if you go to either of the websites there's andypilgrim.com
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which is racing related but the main one that gets used the most certainly because of the foundation work is
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tsef.org and the tses essentially stands for traffic safetyeducationfoundation.org
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you can get there through the whole thing traffic safety education foundation.org or
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tsef.org either one gets to the foundation and you can get to me through the andypilgrim.com or through the
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foundation website it's easy enough to do very nice andy thank you so much for
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being my guest on corvette today the stories were absolutely fantastic we have to have you back on the show and
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we'll talk more about some of the corvette racing stories steve it's been my pleasure thank you so much for having
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me it's great to be part of your very long list of legend people there i'm very honored thank you thanks for
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