Will Corvette Always Stay Under Chevrolet? | 2025 Corvette Manual CORVETTE TODAY #233

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Keith cornette from Corvette blogger.com Keith is with me every other week we keep you current and up todate on what's
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happening with America Sports Car Keith welcome back to the show I was remiss in my duties our show the news and
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headlines show celebrated the start of year number five in September that's a pretty big milestone buddy it's a huge
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milestone and it's just amazing that five years of finding news every couple weeks to be able to talk about a car
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people constantly are coming up to me and saying how do you do this fulltime you know it's just a car and I'm like there is so much news out there there's
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so much interest in the Corvette that believe me we'll find news it's out there it is out there for sure well
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let's start off buddy as we always do with a production update from the Bowling Green assembly plant absolutely so you know we started the 202s on
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September 9th I believe a Monday and it's been interesting because there's two trackers that we follow Roger ke's
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Facebook report and then there's also the C8 tracker which allows you to pull up the window stickers and their numbers
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for the beginning of the model year have just been a little weird we haven't been getting updates right away so maybe there's a quality control hold maybe
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there was something else going on we do know that there was a bunch of constraints at the end of 2024 anyways so that might have spilled into 2025 but
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we did finally get some numbers later last week we're showing a total of 1,226 stingrays 516 z6s and then 63
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e-rays so that's a total of 1885 cars 1,85 cars but what's really interesting
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about that is the number Z6 is compared to the Stingrays I mean that's nearly 45% or so much higher than the 30% that
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I know that Chevy was wanting to do so you know Sting Ray are at 60% the z6s are at 30% and then the e- ray follow up
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at 10% and that's where they at the end of 2024 but the beginning of 2025 things are a little bit different they might be
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doing some other things with the cars there might be building shy there's a number of times that the cars weren't being reported daily so just could be
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something else going on but we did want to make people aware of that but we are getting numbers they're pretty good numbers and again with it's still
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backlog of the Z6 is seeing that many built right away is just a testament to you give them time you give them the
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parts they can build the cars absolutely right and we had a new thing coming up the build and price configurator is now
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live for 2025 and with with a new name yeah this is pretty cool so they call it the build and buy configurator because
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what'll happen is as inventory normalizes through the model year dealers get cars and they have them on
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their Lots as you build a car in the configurator they might say hey there's a car that matches most of these
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specific items that you ordered at these dealers so you can say well geez I don't have to build a car there's one right
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down the street that this dealer has and that's why they call it the build and buy configurator now because you can actually see live inventory updates as
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well the big news is again 2 building price configurator came live on Tuesday
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September 24th and I gotta tell you Steve I wasted nearly the whole day looking at hysteria metallic on an eay
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it allows us to see all three new colors and all the different combinations with stripes and wheels and it's just a lot
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of fun especially when you have a personal connection to a car because we are buying a hysteria purple eay yes
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it's still somewhat incomplete in terms of it's not showing all the photos for a lot of the options you just see a Chevy
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bow tie but they'll get there you know they do this every year where they get the information out it appears mostly
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right and then some of these individual images will sort of catch up to it if you want to know where to find it you go
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to chevrolet.com you click on the shop Tab and then build and buy you either scroll down to the bottom or you can
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actually click on the performance tab to pull up the Corvettes and then you can pull up from there and then also if you go into the individual cars like the
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stingray rayer Z6 there's usually a build and buy link right there on the individual car as well yeah great to see
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the new colors gave us a good chance to see the z6s with the four different new wheels and of course course the
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stingray's got the z51 spoiler that's different now some interesting things and of course have an arrow interior saw
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a lot of people playing with that as well nice and I didn't go down that rabbed hole last week I was lucky I was
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so busy with Corvette today stuff I didn't go on the configurator but I probably will this week I know it's
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there and I it it keeps calling my name Keith I hate it when that happens I know it I know it and you're like oh my God
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I'm gonna spend more money yeah exactly right and we got something I think I might spend some more money on we'll talk about that in the minute speaking
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of the 2025 cars you can now download the owner's manual for all the 2025 Corvettes yeah so the 2025 Corvette
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owners manual is now also available at chevrolet.com and this is great for people that are buying a 2025 car
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because you can go in and just learn about your car see some information you know find out how stuff works so to speak but it's actually for anybody that
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owns a CA you might want to log in and take a look at especially the latest service recommendations because we know
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a lot of that's changed over the years you know stuff like the transmission filter replacement when to change the transmission fluids really good stuff
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there this owner manual only covers Stingray Ray and Z6 believe me we did look and see if there was anything gr1
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related in there we came up blank disappointed but glad to see that Chevy knows what they're doing at least I'm
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glad to see that that's out now we do have the owner's manual available for viewing and downloading on Corvette blogger.com or if you go to
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chevrolet.com I believe if you scroll down to the bottom there's some places there you can find owners manuals at
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Chevrolet great here's the thing I might spend a little bit of money on they have a new trunk and frunk trim panels which
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means the material inside for the 2024 Corvettes in three different colors yeah but you know it's not carbon fiber
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though right well I know but you have to make different allocations other ways well sometimes it's good for a little
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splash of color other than carbon fibers right perhaps these new dealer installed options will be something for you we
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learned actually about these a couple months ago but now we got pictures and the pictures are pretty cool I know some
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people are like oh man I can't believe they roll out with something like that and others like you are saying hey I kind of like that these are the suede
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trim panel kits the lpo code is called sxb and it's the same sueded material
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like if you had a 3lz or a 3lt car and you had like the upper level suede basically that microfiber feel that's
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what's going to be lining the trunk and it's done in interior colors the first three colors that they're coming out with are the natural tan jet black and
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then adrenaline red when you open up that frunk and you see that adrenaline red bucket that whole thing wrapped in
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Adrenaline red yep kind of cool I think that's what you're probably going for as well exactly they're expensive here's
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the deal on the Corvette accessories page at chevrolet.com these were showing price for
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$1,095 so that's what we posted and then afterwards we had a couple of sales guys call us up and say Hey you know if you
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order this with a car it's $11,995 so $900 more yikes I don't know
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if they're going to adjust the Corvette accessories page price up or if they're bringing the other price down but there's definitely a really wide
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discrepancy right now and these trim panel kits are only available for Stingray and Z6 the e- Ray's got a
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slightly different shaped frunk so I think that might be holding that up although there is another lpo code that
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seems to be coming for eay on that as well so just stay tuned eay buyers but for Stingray buyers it looks like you're
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ready to go I might have that red one in my immediate future buddy for the frunk and the trunk that might be cool yeah
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they look good and their dealer installed and they come with their own little warranty on it so why not hey I might look into it next week that might
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be cool also we found out some good news for the ZO6 people you're going to get improved Michelin tires similar to the
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ones with the ZR1 yeah so as Corvette Engineers were developing the specs for the ZR1 one of the things they requested
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improve was the Michelin tires Ted said in an interview that because of the incredible performance of the ZR1 they
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had to tweak the tire construction a little bit to bump up the spec what we found out was that GM uses this tire
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specification called Tire performance criteria or TPC and it measure various factors like wet and dry traction
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efficiency longevity and then it a number and then they work with their vendors like Michelin to make a tire
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compound equal to that number that spec because the ZR1 required a little bit
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more they're matching now the Michelin tires that ZR1 spec which will then down filter into the Z6 and even the eay if
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you're talking like the 4S tires there so pretty cool to see you getting just a little bit bump of performance because of the zr1's now there even though the
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Z6 Remains the Same yeah that's good news for all future ZO6 owners that's for sure speaking of 2025 5 z6s it now
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looks like there's a $3,000 gas guzzler tax regardless of what Arrow you have on the car that's right Steve so back when
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the 2023 Corvette Z6 was first available the gas guzzler tax was assigned to the car based on its fuel economy ratings
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and there's two tiers because of the big Arrow package so it was priced at 2600
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always say priced it's a tax you're being charged $2,600 for Z06 without the large Arrow package or $3,000 for Z6 is
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with that large Arrow package when the 2025 configurator came out we were started seeing these gas guzzler taxes
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priced at $3,000 across the board no matter which package you purchased and then later on we found out yes it was
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confirmed by Chevrolet's Wendy Miller on one of the Facebook Corvette groups that regardless of Arrow package it is now
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$3,000 for the gas coer tax on Z6 which Steve makes us wonder what it's going to
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be for the ZR1 or even the Zora I know buddy I'm just going oh no oh no oh no
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is it going to be an arm or is it going to be a leg is it a first p or both right right well buddy let's
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4231 I'm your host Steve Garrett with me is my partner in crime Keith cornette from Corvette blogger.com every other
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racing and Corvette rumors let's start with racing Keith we look pretty good and Fuji there we had our best finish
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for TF Sports so far yeah pretty exciting there they really coming around as a team the World Endurance Championship was at Fuji International
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Speedway I believe it was September 15th for the six hours of Fuji TF sport of course racing the Z6 gt3r they're our
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partners in W the World Endurance Championship their number 81 Corvette posted its best finish of the year with
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fourth place in lmgt3 class this car actually spent significant times leading the race but late contact kind of
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knocked it out of contention and of course it finished fourth it sounds like they had a really strong run there and
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again leading that class for Anytime is successful I would say successful yeah they weren't able to get there to the
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end but same couldn't be said for their sister car number 82 had a failed starter during a pit stop and they lost
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10 laps changing that out again you see one car doing really well and while the other one has some stupid little error
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happen to it but they do seem to be coming around the next and final race of the WC season is in November the eight
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hours of Bahrain on November 2nd will end out the season for the World Endurance Championship sounds good also
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in Corvette racing at Indie we had a Podium finish didn't we yeah this is always exciting I would really like to
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go to this race the six- hour Battle of the bricks they run it on the road course for Indie and what's interesting
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is they run it backwards for the Indie 500 they go around counterclockwise around the oval but for this they run
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clockwise and then they take the pathway through the road course there that would just be a lot of fun of course six hours
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at Indianapolis would be a blast Antonio Garcia drove the final three hours of
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his stint and was right there in contention towards the end again some back and forth factors knocked him down
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to thir place but they did take the podium there of course there was a lot of weather raining at the beginning of
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the race some really long yellow flags went on the number four Corvette with Tommy Milner and Nikki casberg they
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finished 11th they lost four laps after contact with another racer and they had to bring in the car for some quick
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repairs we're also getting some success in AWA racing in GTB they finished sixth in class and they won the Bob Akin award
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for that rounded Indianapolis that Bob Akin award goes to the highest finishing GTD entry with a bronze rated driver and
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they've won this two or three other times so they keep this up they actually could be awarded an automatic entry to
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lamons next year wow for having that award the next race for Corvette racing is actually the final round of the inso
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weather tech Sports CH Championship it's going to be at Road Atlanta October 12th the 10-hour petite leemon they race into
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the darkness at petite Lon should be pretty exciting I haven't seen the updated chart yet to see where we are on
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that I don't think we've really got a chance for it but again anything can happen at petite lemons it's always a fun race to watch that is a fun race to
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watch watch I like that a lot also in the rumors category Keith this was one that I really thought should happen but
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Mark Roy killed the rumor of Corvette going as its own brand not under Chevrolet yeah he says that but I mean
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this is something that could be changed in a heartbeat sure he was on Jay Leno's garage with the new ZR1 and in the
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conversation Leno brought up the fact about how Corvettes are always seen as their own brand even though they really are part of Chevrolet and of course
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we've been hearing this talk for years about how Corvette could be split off from Chevrolet be its own brand I actually like the idea especially when
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the conversation starts talking about if there's going to be another SUV or a sedan in the lineup you know maybe
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expanding so why not give it its own brand right I think the other benefits of course are sales and the service
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imagine having dedicated service center for Corvette that'd be awesome people that actually know how to work on Corvettes that would be fantastic too
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Mark says he's not seeing them letting Chevrolet let go of Corvette but again Anything Could Happen of course
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Chevrolet the roots are a performance value for everyday people the Corvette's kind of moving beyond though a little
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but I think with how expensive these cars are getting and just the aspect of the Mid Engine platform itself Mike
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Royce obviously has some insight there so we'll defer to the president of GM yeah if you're the president of GM and
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you say Corvette is staying under Chevrolet it's probably gonna stay that way for a while I think I think so yeah
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let's talk about the ZR1 because the ZR1 is back at the nerur ring testing isn't it yeah this was another story Mark
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Royce helped us confirm he shared photos of a redm ZR1 Coupe inside the secret
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layer that garage where they had have the zor prototypes and there was also a US spec rapid blue Z06 in that photo as
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well the ZR1 was then spotted later on on the track at the end of The two-e Industry pool session cor engineers at
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Carlile and at the NCM told us that they were doing some further development of the car let's hope they're really
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getting to the end of it so we can get pricing and know when the car is going to go on sale Steve I think the other reason the ZR1 was in Germany was most
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likely to run its official top speed at the ATP track at papenburg right this is
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the same test track where the 7 ZR1 performed at 212 mph top speed run back in 2018 yeah and I think during the NCM
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Q&A could have been Carlile but Josh holder confirmed the ZR1 was still needing to run that it was going to be
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doing that at papenberg so between having the ZR1 in Germany with the nurburg ring and then run this top speed
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I think we're starting to really get close to having all performance specs ready to go hopefully again we'll see this car on sale sometime early in 2025
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I can't wait for it buddy I know that they're really expecting big things out that top end speed so I'm just kind of sitting on the edge of my seat waiting
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to hear some times that's for sure and the Corvette team says they've been touting a speed they call it comfortably
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over 2015 yeah in these top speed tests what Chevy does is they do the tests both ways and then they average the
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results for their official time so that way a really strong tail win can't overcome a headwin so it comes up with
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that average time and that's what they call Legit yeah we're excited to hear that and again anything over 250 miles
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an hour again Unthinkable yeah absolutely right the other room we've got Keith is Sport Auto had confirmed
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that the C8 Z6 ran the fastest nurburg ring time in 2024 it had to be somebody
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outside the United States to get that confirmed time though didn't it it was so again this is this us spec c86 that
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we mentioned was at the nurur green with the Corvette engineering team sport Auto is a German automotive magazine and they
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do a series where their same driver Christian Gart does a hotlap on the nerw and they run everything not just
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Porsches and Lamborghinis but Civics and vws doesn't matter they take these cars
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and they run them on the nurburging the fact that they got a US spec car even makes more sense for us and that's
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something we're excited about because obviously the US spec cars have a little bit more higher horsepower rating than the ones that we are selling over in
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Europe right while this is not an official time because it's not a factory time people have said this might be
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upwards of 10 seconds difference between an official Factory time and Sport Auto time but the point is one driver drives
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multiple cars and so it is a benchmark when he posted he did his drive and then afterward he posted on Instagram saying
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that it was the fastest car he had tested this year again stressing this year yes so we expect to have that lap
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in about 6 to8 weeks when the magazine feature comes out and of course we'll have the result right here on Corvette today as soon as we get it that's good
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enough for me buddy I don't care if it's an American or a foreign one if they've got a American spec ZO6 I'll take their
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time any day and especially on a clear course with a guy that knows the track as well as Christian does right yeah I
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would say that I'll take that because you know we're not getting times for Chevy so this is the next best thing that's the next best thing exactly all
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right time for our final break Keith when we come back it's the lighter side of Corvette on Deck here on Corvette
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is my buddy Keith cornette from Corvette blogger.com if you want a deeper dive into any of these stories we cover you
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can always go to Corvette blogger.com in this third final segment we always cover the lighter side of Corvette Keith this
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was mind-blowing a 67 L88 Stingray convertible hammered at Mika Monterey
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for $2.1 million oh my gosh yeah so you
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know only 20 l8s were built for 67 and the very first of these was this black convertible it was sold to racer Tony De
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Lorenzo who campaigned the car with Jerry Thompson in Seca a production races in 1967 so then he sells the car
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in 6 it goes through a couple other people eventually its racing career comes to an end and it ends up restored
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by the neighbor Brothers down in Houston and then certified Bloomington gold in ' 84 it was the first 67 Corvette with the
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ncrs zor Arcus dunoff Mark of Excellence award in 1985 and then eventually it won
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the maen Triple Diamond award in 2010 so this car is fully documented original
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protecto plate original 67 title trim tag plus testimony from Tony De Lorenzo
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backs up all the originality of the car so when this car shows up at mikum Monterey sale in August bidding on it's
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pretty strong and this is a known car it's been through mikum a couple times recently so really needs to find a long-term owner during the runup of the
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auction when they hit 2.1 million the reserve was listed and then it was confirm sold the out the door price with
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commission was $2,352 th000 for this L88 Corvette wow
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that's amazing only 20 of these cars maybe only 12 to 14 left I think they people say yeah it's pretty cool to see
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and again these prices should be higher based on the car and the specs and of course the originality of this car yeah
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that's true very true also this is kind of crazy it was it was really wild I got
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to hand it to you guys in Cleveland a Cleveland Browns fan turned a C5 Corvette into the ultimate tailgate
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machine tell everybody what he did to this car you know the NFL Cleveland Browns fans they love their football
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team and so a Super Fan named Raymond prisbe proded a 2004 Corvette convertible just to make the ultimate
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tribute to his favorite NFL team so he painted it orange and brown which is the colors of the Cleveland Browns and then
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over the years he assembled a collection of autographs from players and coaches that any sports fan would love to get
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their hand on that car just because of all the different people he had signed it Raymond's nickname is showd dog and
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it's actually on the back of his license plate as well and he is known for tailgating outside the stadium at the
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runup for the games his impressive display is amazing because he's got like these external monitors showing replays
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and stuff like that wow and then he's got these four tribute guitar cars a couple of different players of the Browns displaying those on the rear he
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says he gets requests to come to different car shows and stuff because his car is well known in the Cleveland area so that's pretty cool the other
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thing cool about Raymond too is he is a former GM worker who's retired no kidding he's basically living the life
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right now wow that's that's pretty amazing if you're watching this show on YouTube we'll have
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a picture of the car on there for you you got to see it yep you got to see it absolutely GM also donated a C8 sting to
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Wayne Community College which I thought was really cool Keith the reason why they're doing this is because they want tomorrow's technicians to really develop
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that understanding of how these things operate you know yeah what they did was Wayne Community College is part of the
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General Motors Automotive Service education program a lot of these people that go through this program will end up
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as GM certified technicians right really cool that they're given the latest technology to work on as they're gaining
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their confidence and their skills as they're working towards their degrees this Corvette joins a fleet of 32 other
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training Vehicles already at Wayne Community College and I think last year GM might have donated a couple engines
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including an lt6 over there wow these guys are working on the latest and greatest from General Motors good for
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them good for GM for recognizing that and getting these guys off on a great path yeah absolutely right that's really
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cool a GM to do that our final story Keith this might have been in better in the rumors category we had a ZR1 doing
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170 mph and then just showing off doing 360 donuts over at milord proving
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grounds yeah this was pretty cool this was all thanks to CBS Sunday Morning who had a feature with GM CEO Mary Bara
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talking about GM's push for that electric future and so they were filming this out at the mil for Proving Grounds
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and So after talking to Mary for just a minute then they switched over and said yeah not only are we looking at Future stuff but we've got the latest and
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greatest Corvette including the ZR1 so that same reporter went for a drive in the 2025 Corvette ZR1 and his driver was
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the new executive Corvette chief engineer Tony Roma wow pretty good to see that so during the they reach speeds
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of 170 m hour and then we also see the car like going around 50 60 miles an hour and then just locking up and doing
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a complete 360 at the Black Lake asphalt area out there afterwards and I wanted to make sure we talked about this
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because they had a sit down with Tony and the course the question because they are talking about the electric future
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the question about Tony was asked if the Corvette would ever be powered by something other than a gas powered engine I thought his response was pretty
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good so I wanted to read it to you he says quote we talk about this a lot I talk about this with enthusiasts my
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friends other Engineers we're not going to apply electrification just for the sake of it we don't put technology on
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Just for technology sake so it kind of has to earn its way and it has to make the car better in some way that our
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customers are going to respond to I think that's an excellent answer it shows that they are looking at
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electrification I think but only as initially these performance outs like the eay perhaps the Zora eventually I
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think they'll get there but they are understanding that the Corvette Enthusiast is not excited about a fully
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electric future right at least not yet I know there's some Tesla plaid owners out there that also have Corvettes they
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can't wait for a Corvette to be full electric for the majority of us we're happy with our gas engines that
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beautiful exhaust sound it sounds like Tony's in tune with that as well so glad to hear that yeah me too that sounds
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good well buddy thanks for being back on Corvette today I know you've got some cleanup to do you live in Tampa I'm
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sorry that you had to take in all that hurricane stuff but get back to normal we'll see you back in two weeks well I
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appreciate it Steve we did come through the okay although we are unconnected from the internet for a little while but could have been worse just glad that
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everything did work out great and I appreciate your mentioning that so thanks again and we see you on the roads keep waving thanks again for listening
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