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we keep you up to date and current on what's happening with america's sports car as a matter of fact keith is fresh
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back from the national corvette museum anniversary celebration keith welcome back we have got a lot to cover today
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boy that's an understatement steve yeah we've got a whole lot in fact not only are we back from the ncm's anniversary
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show but the week prior we were up at carlisle together these two shows back to back really can take a lot out of you
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but we just learned so much and there's such good shows to go to very different in nature but yet the access we get to
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the corvette team we get to see all the beautiful cars there of course at the mcm we also had a hall of fame
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celebration it's been a whirlwind couple of weeks but also the news we just can't get out of the way of all the news that's coming for the corvette so let's
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get to it let's get to it buddy let's start off with production at the bowling green assembly plant as we always do we
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talked about the plant closed on monday august 29th due to a parts related issues we are expected to see it reopen
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on tuesday september 6 the day after labor day this kind of came up while we were at carlisle its parts supply issues
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we learned at the anniversary show that one of the parts in short supply right now is actually wheels we keep thinking
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chips or carbon fiber but it's actually wheels right now there are issues with carbon fiber there are issues with of
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course the edge red paint that we see on the 70th anniversary cars and that's one of the constraints that we've been
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tracking is the edge red is actually a trademarked high temp coating that is put on these calipers and on the engine
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covers the idea is obviously it's a great looking color but it's a trademark color so you can't just pick up that color and move it to another
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manufacturer right the reason why that is in short supply is that there was actually a fire at that plant actually
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fire in an explosion which injured two people as well so that happened in early july we've been trying
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to find out if the plant is back up and running we've reached out to some people there we haven't heard back yet i think
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they just see us as this corvette blogger guy contacting us so we haven't heard back from them yet we do know
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there are some contingency plans they might switch over to the bright red calipers we're still waiting on this
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news this is kind of big obviously the 70th anniversary just keeps getting impacted by these supply chain issues we
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might see it actually as one of the lowest anniversary versions through corvette's history obviously there's
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been some others the carbon 65. this was designed to be a free flow option anybody can order it no numbers to
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constrain the overall production so it does hurt that and that's something that we've been watching we've been looking
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at the vins as they go through production i think they stopped right around 99.09
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but i also found out too that that does not include the anniversary editions in that count okay we should be over 10 000
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cars for the 2023 model year the stingrays but yeah these supply chain issues is global it's just not affecting
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corvette it's everywhere it's toyota it's ford it's everybody the good news though is while we're at the anniversary
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show we met a long-time corvette enthusiast i'm not gonna use a vip i'm not gonna say that he's anybody that you
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would know but he's got one of the first z06 orders and he's still showing a tpw of september 12th wow for the
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construction of his car so pretty excited about that there's been some talk about being delayed we're going to get into some of the z06 orders next but
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they are planning on starting production of the z06s so it's on it's going well and it's not very many keith because we
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found out that they are halting all c806 orders through the rest of the year what's going on with that
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yeah this news dropped late friday afternoon and we usually record on fridays we're glad that we were able to
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wait until sunday because this news is just so big so there's a screenshot going around that mostly was talking
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about the 12-month customer retention programs that again we're going to talk about here in just a second but in that
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there was a screenshot that showed that they're going to take some time to get it right that of course freaked a lot of
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people out but then a company that screenshot was a webcast sent directly to dealers we haven't seen the webcast
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although we did see a transcription of it from rick conti who put it out in one of his videos what scott bell of
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chevrolet did was i'm just going to read it he says talking about supply chain issues we're going to have a gradual
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production ramp up for z06s as there's way too much on the line here we're going to stop taking orders for the
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balance of the year we're not building as many z06s as we'd like to right now it's really that simple we plan to sell
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more of this generation corvette than any other generation in our history and that includes a high percentage of z06s
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that's what he said there i mean it was short very to the point they took orders in the august order cycle what they've
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decided to do right there is say let's build these cars make sure that everything's right that's really all
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there is to it we know that there's a lot of carbon fiber on the car we know that that's a supply chain issue they
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got to ramp up the wheels and other components we don't know that alloy wheels are a supply chain issue and then
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of course there's the chips which has just always been in short supply so what they decided to do is say we're going to concentrate on these cars first make
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sure everything goes correctly and then we'll open it up for the others talking to members of the corvette team they
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tell us they would build 10 000 they'd want to build 20 000 of them as many as they could but it's just not the current
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reality in the production environment that we are in so they feel that they have as many orders in the system right now they want to ramp it up people are
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very disappointed it's the nature of what it is right now and it's nothing that the team is doing the team has not
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released the car and then saying no you can't buy it we're not going to sell it to you we want to sell as many as we can
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but it's got to be correct it's got to be right when i say that it's got to be correct it's got to be right as far as
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we know there's nothing wrong with the car it's the production environment that's the problem so that's what we're looking at yep that's very true it's sad
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it's disappointing but you know what when they start ramping up production in early 2023 it's gonna hum off that line
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i think yeah we are hoping obviously we'll be watching and maybe things will go very smooth maybe these constraints
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will open up it's not set in stone they said through the end of the year it's definitely something that they could say wow we got it we're going well we've got
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these parts in let's go ahead and do another order cycle they don't have to do a huge motorcycle right the other part of this is in that first order
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cycle none of the top dealers got z07 of course they're the ones with many orders for those there's a lot of people
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waiting the dealers are wanting these as well so it's kind of a cluster but we're watching it we'll see what happens buddy
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also chevrolet has backtracked on the 12-month ownership rule for z06s they've changed it to six months instead of 12
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months give us the back story on that as well yeah we're actually you know we were wondering if they were talking to
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their attorneys you know why did they go from their 12 months to six months right but maybe they had a little bit more
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control over doing that the other point too we've talked about the carrot and the stick the stick is if you sell it
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you can't get on the order list for any of their in-demand vehicles but then the person that you sell that car to you
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can't transfer the warranty to them right but if you do keep it for six months then you get the carrot which is
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you get the 500 000 my chevy rewards points valued at five thousand dollars so within that six month time period
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then you can start adding some different accessories from chevrolet you know there's of course the service and even
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if you finance the car through gm you can pay you can use that five thousand dollars for that as well right the one
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thing that we saw again this was on that screenshot that was sent to dealers is chevy says no exceptions made for
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customers we think there is one we think that if they sell the car back to the dealer they shouldn't be dinged for that
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but again no one's saying anything they just said no exceptions for customers that does remain to be seen that'll be
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interesting we also found out the top speed for the z06 didn't we keith yeah this comes from the carlisle
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presentation tags was talking about the different numbers of the car 670 horsepower you know 2.6 0 to 60. then he
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said it's 195 miles per hour as the top speed initially a lot of us thought that he was talking z07 of course he's
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standing in front of the z07 this is the car with the big wing and all the dive planes but it's actually the base car
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the low drag version of the car that runs the 195 and then talking with josh
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holder the vehicle corvette chief engineer he says that for the z07 is probably around 189 or so and why i say
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probably is because they haven't actually conducted their top speed test he says you know how conservative we are because it does require two flying mile
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runs in different directions and then you average those times for the official speed right we did find doing some
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research that the top speed also seems consistent with the top speed from the c7 z06 so if you're looking for a 200
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mile an hour car you're probably gonna end up waiting for the c8 zr1 we saw the c7 zr1 brake 200 we saw the c6 zero one
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break 200. the z06 is a track oriented car it's not designed as attached to
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these numbers per se these huge numbers it's designed to take the times off your laps when you go to the track it's a
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very capable car for those that love the track they're just going to be able to take their times off at like nothing
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else yeah and it's a very capable track car and that's what the z06 is really geared for and built for so that's
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really good we also found out fuel economy for the z06 as well we always say that you're not buying a z06 for the
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fuel economy right but we did get those numbers at carlisle and they directly affect the pricing of the car because of
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the gas guzzler tax the z06's mpg ratings are 12 city and then
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1921 highway we say 1921 is because what they did was they divided the car into
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two different arrow packages and then they tested those separately they did that because if you're only buying the
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base car you shouldn't have to pay the extra gas guzzler tax on top of that that the z07 owners are going to get
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charged the 19 miles per gallon for the highway is with the z07 arrow package
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and you'll get the 21 miles per gallon with the z06 and the base trim the combined mpg rating is a 14-15 again z07
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base and that's actually very similar to the 2019 zr1 powered by the lt5 that had
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a combined rating of 15 as well again the z06 offers more drag and therefore
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it has the lowest fuel economy so i don't know since the l88 exactly you weren't buying l88s for fuel economy
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back in the day either and from those numbers again that's where we get the gas filter attack so the 2600 dollars
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for the base trim and 3 000 for the z06 with the z07 aero kits is how they came
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up with those numbers you're not buying it for the gas mileage but it does affect every z06 buyer with that exactly
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right also keith this was kind of crazy there is now a new mandatory 300 charge
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on all 2023 corvettes for onstar really yeah you know you want to piss off
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people steve do you make them take something that they don't want right we heard the story it was also in that
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screenshot that was sent to chevy dealers on friday this came up in the q a at the corvette museum with harlan
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people do not like mandatory charges for stuff like this what this 300 does it
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adds the functionality for the onstar app so it includes like remote start you get your vehicle diagnostics this goes
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back to gm steve carlisle said back in february that they've identified 50 or
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so fee based digital features by 2026 that they want to start charging their
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customers for ours was 300 and this was across chevy actually not just the corvette but across chevy wow but they
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did add 1500 mandatory to all buicks and gmc for this onstar and the connected
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services people don't like this stuff we know that bmw recently was charging like 200 to activate your heated seats oh i
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believe they were charging you more if you wanted to activate apple carplay these are things that are already in the
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car and you paid for that and then they're making you pay more for that people just do not like to be force-fed
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options and charge more for things like that and we're going to see how that's going to go in the industry i'm betting
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more and more going to do it just because it ends up being another revenue source for them and that's unfortunate because it's not taking what the
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customers really want as the overall arbiter of the car that they're building and selling so yeah that's disappointing
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and no one likes it as we say keith ouch that's gonna leave a mark buddy let's take our first break when we
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every other week is keith cornett from corvette blogger we always keep you current and up to date on what's
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happening in the world of corvette and there's a lot this week in this section we're going to talk about corvette
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racing and corvette rumors we've got some juicy ones hang on strap on your seatbelt first off in racing keith how
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do we do it vir well this is a race i didn't get to see we were at carlisle that day right but i hear it was a barn
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burner the corvettes finished second behind the championship leading number nine porsche the margin of victory was
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just 0.823 seconds it was almost ours is what we could say it was the second number
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two finish of the season for the number three corvette so it comes with the last race and i was up on october 1st with
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the 10 hour petite le mans at road atlanta i really would like to go back and say usually post the four races up
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to their youtube channel so one of these nights i need to just put that on and watch that because i hear the ending was pretty good there we do have some news
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on the number 64 corvette over in the world endurance championship they're actually coming up september 11th is a
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six hours of fuji in japan oh so that'll be the first time that we've ever raced there should be exciting of course you
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have mount fuji in the background and you never played any of the driving games on the video games you know fuji
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speedway is always a fun track to watch and stuff looking forward to seeing the number 64 back in action corvette racing
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still going strong we're not looking at any championships this year for the number three car but you know what we
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are competing and we are making it fun for the fans and that's what it's all about absolutely right also i saw that
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late model racing lmr has now got the fastest c8 stingray time on the planet
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i'm sure amelia hartford is disappointed with this well she's been busy driving those z06
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press cars around i doubt she's all that broken up but this is interesting because late model racecraft worked with
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fuel tech usa so they both collaborated they both are using essentially the same setup of course lmr has a 1500
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horsepower twin turbo kit and then they use these secondary controllers from fueltech usa for the fuel delivery so
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this is the first time that we've seen them go out there owner steve faraday ramped up he did four runs but his
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fastest time was 8.83 seconds at 160 miles an hour wow they had no issues
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with the car that we're aware of every time they ran it seemed to get faster and faster he kept saying well we're going to keep turning it up we kind of
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got away from that there was a little bit of a pause it seemed like it's the race to the eights of course fuel tech was the first one there but it's still
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that's awesome also callaway was showing a prototype supercharged c8 stingray at
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corvettes at carlisle i got my eyes on that that was awesome looking yeah this is a long time coming they're using
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their 2.3 liter triple cooled supercharger system it has a roots type eaton tvs 2300 spinners inside i can't
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think of any rotors the real thing here is that unlike the lmr fuel tech method of piggybacking on top of the chevy ecu
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which is encrypted the word on the street is that they do have the ability to tune the ecu callaway is a long time
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partner of chevrolet and gm it looks like they finally are able to get in there and do that that's huge news
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production is scheduled to actually begin on the supercharged callaways early 2023 the company's already taken a
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thousand dollar deposits they're thinking that it'll cost somewhere in the low 20s that's similar to what we saw back in the c7s when you can add
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just the supercharger package to your car you buy the car they ship it up to old lime connecticut or out in
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california they put it all together for you you send it back to your dealer you pick it up there there's all kinds of delivery options of course you could do
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a museum delivery you can actually do it at callaway's factory or at callaway's test track in thompson speedway i
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believe up in new england somewhere so all kinds of options very good stuff callaway also has two other packages a
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35th anniversary b2k and they just released callaway seoka edition we went
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three or four years without really any good stuff coming from callaway for corvette owners and now all of a sudden there's a flood of it like everybody
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else they took the time of the pandemic they got their projects going and now we're starting to see the fruits of that
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labor they're cranking them out now that's for sure also keith we saw a level two c806 spoiler spotted and i
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thought that was really good looking talk a little bit more about that yeah we've been chasing this since the reveal
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of the car at the peterson back in october right so i'm standing there with kirk bennion the exterior design manager
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corvette and he was telling us how on the base spoiler it's got this little lip there's the black panels underneath
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and there are four t-15 torx screws and you can unscrew those take that off and
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then with your base car you get these extensions that then bolts up in their place and they add like a lip spoiler
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like a 20 millimeter lip spoiler around that edge it's almost like the wicker bills on the z07s back in the c7 era as
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well they obviously don't stick up as high but it does add downforce and we actually saw these wrapped in camouflage
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on the e-ray test cars that were going around the nurburgring earlier this year as well so i'm at the museum and i walk
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out back these cars weren't really even on display one of them had a kentucky dealer plate and then the other one had
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a manufacturers i believe from michigan but the kentucky dealer plate tells me that it's a car driven by one of the
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executives probably over at the plant you saw two of them the pictures we had i believe were on the coupe but then the
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next day i came across the convertible one as well also accelerate yellow but these are really cool you just take out
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the four screws and put the new panels up there and add the screws and actually they're adjustable so you can add or
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remove some of that down force if you want i think most people just go to the maximum position because it looks cooler
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yeah it's true we're glad to see these and again because of the recent constraints of the z07 package many
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people might be saying well i'm just going to go with the non-z07 but at least you get something like this they're included with the car there's no
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additional charge for them these are the fun things that we find when we go to shows like the ncm anniversary show
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that's really nice especially if it's no extra charge it looks really good so if you don't like the big wing this is a
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great alternative and like you said it does look like the wicker bills and it really fits the car well buddy let's
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keith cornett from corvette blogger news and headlines we've got some big stuff here on the lighter side of corvette
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first keith fantastic news it was announced that plant tours are going to resume starting november 2nd yeah we've
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been waiting for this a long time last time they had a tour was july 16 2017.
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wow so that's how long it's been of course they suspended them back in the day they were building the new paint shop they were actually rearranging the
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structure of how the cars are assembled this was all being set up eventually for the c8s that started coming in 2020.
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this is how long it's taken i actually think that the tourist probably started last year had it not been for the kova delta variant which took us all by
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surprise and kind of locked a lot of people down again and of course we had the tornado then in december last year
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remember they had tour signs and one of those signs got launched 30 miles away into central kentucky huge news plant
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director kai spandy did the announcement at the ncm anniversary show the way it's going to work is you'll schedule your
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tours through the corvette museum we don't have a cost yet on what they're going to be the good news is if you're an ncm member you'll get a early bird
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booking on tuesday october 25th huge news and even bigger news on top of this
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if you had an rhc delivery while the plant tours were closed kai says we owe you one not sure how they're gonna
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figure that out but if you've done a rhc delivery you picked up a car and unfortunately the tours were closed you
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can schedule that and get that done pretty exciting during this presentation he was showing a little bit of the advanced route that people take and some
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of the things that they'll see you will see the paint shop one of the things you won't see is the performance build center which is sort of walled off and
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then also following up on this news he also announced the return of the z06
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engine build program which will start second quarter 2023 as well good stuff coming from the plant we're going to be
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able to get customers back in there both as tours and both as building their engines for the z06 kai says they really
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want people in there for them it's their workforce they take it as a sense of pride to be able to say hello to their
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customers and the customers get to see the hard work that these men and women do every day for us pretty exciting stuff the one thing that's still kind of
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open is the old buyer's tours you could actually follow your car over the course of a day and a half or so when it was
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being assembled we're still waiting to find out any details on that but we're hearing that they are being finalized
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and will be released shortly that's awesome news also we had two new z06 videos posted on z06 academy this was a
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weird one we got the news from our friends at vision corvette forum some guy posted hey there's two videos over on the z06s official website that we
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hadn't seen before so sure enough we went looking for them found them both there embedded on the site they weren't
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on the z06 academy yet we actually emailed our friends up at chevy pr just asking about that but what was crazy
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steve is these videos on youtube had been up for about two weeks they only had like 20 views each wow we picked
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them up i know that vintage corvette forum was running up one of these videos it was called amazing agility you get to
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hear how engineers built the z06 to handle the way it does at high speeds and then we also have a video on the z07
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performance package which goes all into everything that you want when driving on the track and getting the best lap times
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possible both these videos have been added to the z06 academy playlist chevy did send out again on friday another
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email highlighting that those two videos were available so if you haven't seen those yet we got them on corvetteblogger.com we also go to
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youtube and just search z06 academy and you can see them there there you go also speed phenom got his ride in the new z06
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at laguna seca and he was with suspension engineer mike hurley wasn't he yeah first of all there's the two
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cars there there's a rapid blue car i believe and then the other one was the indy 500 pace car ron fellowes was
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actually his driver in the blue car and then rick malone from spring mountain was also driving the indy 500 pace car
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this is really the first time that we've seen the z06s driven really hard especially really hard on a track the
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disclaimer there was that it was more of a parade lap but it was one of the fastest parade laps i've seen they
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weren't going 10 10 they backed it down a little bit but still amazing performance out of the car you really
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get to hear the exhaust when it's being driven in anger the way it was if you saw that video that was fantastic but
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then speed also talks with engineer mike hurley about the car suspension again difficult to hear a little bit of it
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just because there's so much track action going on in the background but we're learning about these helper springs that are on the suspension
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that's designed that when you get this maximum extension from the springs and the handling it snaps everything back
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into place right away pretty interesting stuff there it gets really technical at some point so if you're into that kind
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of thing go look up speed phenoms videos at laguna seca and again to hear the car driven the way it was will make a lot of
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people very happy it will make you very very happy that's for sure also keith this was so cool we had a thousand
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african-american corvette owners converge on bowling green for the very first corvette cultural awareness
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weekend that was so cool to see yay they said that the attendance here was higher than what we saw at the bash and the
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battle was one of the highest attended events at the corvette museum that we've seen obviously since coven again a
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thousand african-american corvette owners showing off their cars they had all kinds of different events not just
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at the museum but elsewhere i saw a nighttime light show which i think should be part of any corvette show
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people decorating their cars with all the neon and everything so that's pretty exciting the other thing too is that they are starting what they call their
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ring of honor in which case they inducted will cooksey the former bowling green assembly plant manager among some
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others there hopefully this will be an annual event it sure does bring a different look to corvette owners it
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just shows the popularity of the corvette among all kinds of segments of the population kudos to them we're gonna
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have to get up to that show next year i know i'd love to see it that's a great show and i hope that that continues on
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for sure also we've got some news about the class action lawsuit on the cracked wheels don't we yeah we call this the
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cracked wheels of justice are turning slowly but they are turning in several class action lawsuits involving the c7
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z06s and grand sports in which case the wheels crack it's not just for people
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driving hard and tracks and everything like that it's just normal everyday drivers i've talked to women whose cars
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have cracked wheels that had to replace wheel after wheel after wheel general motors has said they're not going to
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accept any responsibility for those so they've been fighting this just not something that we enjoy talking about
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but in this segment about the class action lawsuit gm was able to move one of the plaintiffs off the case and into
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arbitration not only are they fighting it but they're fighting each individual plaintiff as a way to get them out of
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the class action lawsuit this is just one of them don't know exactly where they stand on this stuff but it's just
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part of the minutia that you go to get forward to the actual case itself no one likes this people call me all the time
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what do i do about it the only thing you really can do is if you love the car and you plan on keeping it you've got to get
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away from the factory wheels and that's pretty sad to say yeah it is it really is but it's what we're dealing with it's
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just something that we have to deal with again like you said if you want to keep the car also keith we got a section that
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i'm going to call dealers behaving badly and this unfortunately might be a recurring section on our news and
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headlines podcast but this is about dealers that are being shamed on social media because they're trying to charge
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up to 90 000 over msrp for the z06 oh steve that's the low end of the side
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that we're talking about here this is really crazy stuff i get pretty angry talking about this because again these
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are just dealers looking to screw their customers as much as they can that's the best way you can say it right so let's
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start with the first dealership and we actually had a good ending on this one mack hike in houston they had a letter
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that went viral that showed that their adjusted dealer mark up their adm would be ninety thousand dollars that was
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really the first time i'd ever seen the letter shared here and there on corvette forums that's right in the corvette forum on facebook but this thing went
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viral it was everywhere we later learned that the general sales manager there basically said nomas and threw his hands
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up and said that they would sell cars now at msrp great that we got them to change that it took shame to do that it
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shouldn't be like that their justification was well our customers are buying the cars and flipping them so why can't we there's a lot of money to be
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made with that but yet you're the dealer hopefully trying to serve your customers needs a 90 000 adm is just not the way
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to go it's this next dealer that really bothers me because well i'll just get into it so classic chevy sugar land in
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houston what they did was they took their list and the number one person on the list whoever that was they said well
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we'll get to you later we're going to auction the top spot and we're going to give quote a portion of proceeds to
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charity so they auctioned the ability to order the corvette z06 first from them for i believe it was 71 thousand dollars
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and they said again portions will be donated to charity we don't know how much is it five dollars is it fifty
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dollars is it fifty thousand dollars we don't know how much but that's just to say but then the winner of that allocation spot gets to buy a corvette
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at an undisclosed adm so they're going to raise the price there as well so not only do you buy the car but then you're
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going to buy the car at an inflated price i just don't see how chevrolet allows dealers to do these kinds of
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auction formats and really hurt their customers and they're hurting their reputations as well there should be no
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finer point to be made that by supporting these dealers and by going through them and getting their cars you're just rewarding them for bad
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behavior right and in fact dealers were doing this i wouldn't go to service for them because that's where they make up a lot of their money i wouldn't buy
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accessories from them this is in houston with mack pike go to them because they obviously saw the light and then our
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final example of egregious dealers behaving badly rydell chevrolet in los
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angeles we heard this from one of our readers who said he'd been on the list since march of 2020 he picked up his c
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stingray from them back then and got on the z06 list and then got a letter maybe
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a month and a half ago where they explained they're kicking off everybody off of their reservation list and then
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they're gonna charge a hundred thousand dollar adm for their cars i can't believe dealers are doing this so they're gonna order their first nine
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cars for dealer stock orders the dealer will order the car the way they want it and then they're supposedly gonna use
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ebay to auction them off to customers and then after that they'll start with the customer orders again you have an
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adm on top of that so you can see these three different examples all different but yet dealers are trying to find
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creative ways to get as much money out of their customers as possible and we just have to shame them we have to avoid
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them and go on but we see the marketplace we see what the production of the car is like now we have the order
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shut down for the next three four months people will be desperate and do anything so we'll see what happens there it's
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ridiculous buddy we're gonna finish this show on an upbeat note because we just found out that the z06 school at spring
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mountain is going to kick off in 2023 which is great news yeah we just got this news actually late saturday night
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our friends that over at mid-engine corvette forum confirmed this through todd crutcher at the ron fellows performance driving school don't have a
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lot of details yet obviously chevy has to build some cars for them but they are expected to start classes in april of
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2023 so it sounds about right timing wise as soon as you get a vin you call
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up to school you can start to schedule your classes and then you'll travel there chevy gives you a voucher to take
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the course it only costs a thousand dollars you get an overnight stay in one of their luxurious con because it's a
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great experience if you love the car and you really want to expand your knowledge of his performance value there's no
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better way than taking the corvette owners school at spring mountain for those on the stingrays that want to do it we're hearing that they're several
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months out so you can't wait you get your vin from your dealer even if the car is not ready yet you get your van
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you call get something scheduled right away you don't want to miss that opportunity good news 06 owner school
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expected to start april 2023 we're gonna have some very happy friends i'm sure absolutely well buddy thank you so much
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for all the information thanks for coming back on corvette today recoup from both carlisle and the anniversary
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celebration and we'll talk again in two weeks that was so much fun again great seeing everybody you know i can't walk
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around carlisle without saying hey i love you on the podcast you know before it was always hey i love your blog i hear just about the podcast so good
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