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current and up toate on what's happening with America Sports Car Keith welcome back to the show happy holidays how is
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your Thanksgiving buddy we had a great time family friends big turkey the whole
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damn it couldn't be much better you know we usually travel on Thanksgiving but we were home this year kind of nice to be home and and kind of do it on home field
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advantage so to speak had a wonderful Thanksgiving thankful for everything about this car the people are friends how was yours it was great it was great
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and you got to love it because you're down in Tampa so you had great weather as well had great weather you got a little bit of a cold front coming
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through it's a little chilly and when I say chilly it's 61 here today for people in Florida that's
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jacket and shorts weather as we like to call it exactly yeah here in Kansas City we're bundling up at about no 27 28
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degrees buddy yikes yeah well let's get started as we always do Keith let's get a Corvette production
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update from the Bowling Green assembly plant absolutely so we're about two months into the 2024 model year production right now and we get our Vin
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counts over from Roger Keel on Facebook and we're looking at the counts I mean they're just amazing numbers you know
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again with all the stuff going on to see these kinds of numbers but we we're showing 592 stingrays have been produced
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through Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then another 18 51 z6s have also
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been produced so that totals out to approximately 7,753 Corvettes produced for the model
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year again big numbers there for the first few months of production we still have no start yet for 2024 Corvette e
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you know many of the tpws that we've seen are coming from the R8 program they get theirs a little bit different than
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somebody that's just ordering through a dealership and going through the normal production they just know that their car is at 3,000 status but some of those
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going first with the eay at the RAC program actually get a tpw from Shane and some of the other people there
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they've been shifting recently and orally around December 4th or so we now have people saying that their eay tpws
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now shipped it back to either the first or second week of January so that's something we're obviously keeping an eye
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about and then the first retail eay is going to Rick hendrik and we know that that hasn't been scheduled yet either so
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we're obviously keeping our eyes on that one because I think that would sort of signal the fact that they're ready to start customer production right once
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Hendrick's car does go down the line nothing set up yet we kind of knew that this might be happening although they said originally production would start
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around October but we see it slipped to November we see it December now we see it slipped to January it's just part of
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the overall issues that GM's going through with Supply and parts and of course they we just wrapped up the UAW
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strike which took six weeks or so so there was probably a lot of starting and stopping all based on when that was
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going to be over and done with it is over and done with so hopefully now we can move on and we'll talk about the UAW
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strike here in just a minute but before that I saw that there was no allocation for November what's going on with that
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yeah so like we said it looks like Chevy and this is just not for Corvettes this is looks like across the Chevrolet
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product lineup oh wow it looks like they're tightening up ordering a little bit you could say that's a good thing
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you want a little bit more demand for the car as opposed to a glut of cars and you can't sell them November 16th was
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the day that we were supposed to get allocations for Corvettes and that all the dealers that we spoke with said they
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got zero while we think that was probably the case Nationwide we can't obviously confirm that every dealer got
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zero so if a dealer did get a onz or two Z out there the order Banks don't open till this Thursday that they'll go in
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probably not going to see these cars until the start of the new year once they're completed there what's interesting though Steve is from the
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dealer Communications we got on November 16th sh kind of outlined their dealer order submission process for the next
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three months for all Chevy dealers they'll see order cycles for their various cars happening every Thursday
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and they cancel those we've got our next opportunity to order Corvette's going to come on December 14th wow and then the
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opportunity after that the allocations will come on January 18th and then the mcycle opens up on January 25th so you
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can see that while there's are cars in the cycle hopefully things are kind of calm down just a little bit we're still
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finishing up cars there's still some cars that are being built without Parts even though we're talking about building
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7,750 cars already for 2024 there are still some issues relating to that maybe
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they could slow down production just a little bit get ahead of this get all caught up it's something that they're dealing with and again like I said it's
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not just Corvette we're seeing it across all Chevrolets interesting very interesting all right let's talk again
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Keith about the UAW strike because I know Bowling Green did not ratify the contract but overall all the plans did
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ratify it so Bowling Green has to go along with that because it's democracy rules isn't that right well yeah because
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the ratification is based on total members agreeing to it versus not agreeing to it they just do the plant by
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plant because it's just easier to vote that way it's like state by state we vote for the president but here yeah
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you're right workers at Corvette assembly plant rejected the plan and so did a couple other plants in fact the beginning of this we were wondering if
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this was going to pass at all ton Wanda who makes our engines they voted 58% against it and then Bedford who does the
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aluminum castings voted against it by 57% however we did see some big plants
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go for it really when Arlington voted yes there was like 60% voted yes that was a really big number and then there's
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a couple of these new EV factories that are coming online and they're being converted from whatever kind of
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employment they had before to it being a union shop and so some of the members at these battery plants are going to see
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huge increases like they can see like 75% increases in their salaries wow ULM Sals has 1,185 members there and they
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voted yes by 97.5% to ratify the agreement so overall the total agreement passed basically 55%
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to 45% okay and that was well over 36,000 or so people voting for it it did
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pass it's been ratified so we've got another labor contract with the UAW for four years so we'll be doing this again
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in 202 also Keith this is interesting news the eay is going to be going to Australia next year yeah you know see we
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love to talk about the Corvette's world domination tour yes now it's almost expected we got the stingray then you
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had the announcements for z6s were going to be sold in these various markets so it's almost expected that the eay is going to be there and that's what GM
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specialty Vehicles just confirmed in Australia that the eay will be coming to the Corvette lineup there in 2024 what's
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interesting is talking about the Z6 they still haven't put the Z6 on sale there yet but they're already talking eay the
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grand of things the pricing is just going to be huge down there the 3lz Z6 Steve goes for like 336,000 Australian
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dollars when it goes on sale wow you think that we've got dealer markups youed should see what they've got down there they call it a measured volume
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proposition so availability is going to be very controlled with the Z6 so it' be interesting to see if they allow more z-
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Rays to go as the road car or if they will also be tight on quantities there as well my guess would be they'd be a
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little bit more open with it it's just one of these things we're waiting to see we're also waiting to see when Z6 will
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officially land in markets like England and Japan we know that they did go on sale in Japan I don't think we've seen
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them go on sale yet in England yet so we're kind of watching that as well cool very nice also Corvette won another
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award Keith it's the Strategic Visions Total Quality award we're kind of like in the awards show season for cars so
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we're getting all these end of the year stuff and then that'll kind of carry through in the beginning of the year with some of the big ones there but you
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know everybody loves the convertible version of the C8 Corvette and now the Corvette HTC was named the premium
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convertible Roadster category winner in the Strategic Visions Total Quality impact competition they obviously are
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looking at the quality of the builds and then also it's not just the Corvette that scored well from General Motors
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General Motors actually was the second highest manufacturer just behind Hyundai they scored with their Chevy Blazer the
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GMC Yukon and the GMC Sierra HD all won their segments we've always thought the
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quality was improving in General Motors of course we have our own questions about what's happening right now behind the Corvette plant we say that if you
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want to be America's favorite sports car that process starts at the Quality part of the plant where they make sure that
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everything is dotted and crossed off and everything looks correct before it goes out to their customers when you do that
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and customers like Corvette owners who just love their cars get them you know obviously they're going to speak highly about them but got to eliminate those
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little errors to keep that quality award High yeah absolutely right and finally Keith our chief engineer Josh holder for
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Corvette discussed thermal management with the ZO6 where did he do that yeah this was interesting you know this is
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coming from the ZO6 rting dribe that was held last year a guy named Dan Carney
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who does a podcast who writes for design news and they have a podcast there called engineering solutions by Design
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he had Josh on during that ride and drive of the ZO6 I love hearing Josh talk especially any of the engineers
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talking about the challenge they had with the car and he said one of the big things was be real easy thermal management if the car didn't have a
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trunk that was obviously one of the priorities was you had to be able to put the two golf clubs in the back there and show that the car was ready for any
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cross cross country trips and things like that so they came up with what they called thoughtful airf flow management
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basically the various ways to keep things cool in the back he talks about how they route the hot air through the vents and the openings and the glass in
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the car not only did they have to deal with that but they also had to deal with sound management as well whether the
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glass was thicker or thinner in the rear what kind of noises that you had to cancel out you only want to hear the
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good noises not the bad noises so again it's always nice to listen to Corvette team members in their own voices as they're talking about these challenges
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this clip was only about 5 minutes long so very listen to so if you want to hear Josh talk about the Z6 and the things
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that they had to kind of work around very interesting go take a listen to it I will definitely check that out buddy let's take our first break when we come
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for next year yeah Corvette racing has already announced their main lineup for the 2024 season in GTD Pro of course
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we're GNA see Antonio Garcia and Tommy Milner in the cars as well as Nikki catsburg and Alexander Sims all those
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guys have raced Corvettes before and we're glad to actually have them and so now we've got the two endurance drivers
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named they are Danielle juncadella boy hope I said his last name right yeah I think he raced prototypes in the last
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few years he won the 2023 Rolex 24 Daytona peti Lon GTD Pro winner 2022 Spa
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24 hours he was an Indianapolis 8 Hour winner so the guy's been a lot of places won some races and then everybody knows
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pretty much Earl Bamber is coming to Corvette he's 2023 nerber 24-hour winner 2020 seing 12h hour winner 2020 spot 24
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hours winner guy's been around a long time he should really take to the Corvettes well I think good to see that
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we've got our expanded lineups there and we got some more Corvette news coming yeah we saw the racing delivery which was really nice to see a little early
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the cars were introduced last year at the Rolex 24 either we've seen them in that raw black carbon yeah or in that
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promotional Livery that they showed when the car was parked up at Road America last year MSA held their first test for
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the beginning of the new year at Sebring and Corvette racing was there with their two Z6 gt3s but they were dressed
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finally in the familiar yellow and black Livery yeah good almost like seeing an old friend but when you look closer
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there are things that are different obviously these cars are much closer in appearance to the Z6 street car we now
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have the matching Wishbone trim on the side intakes that's new and then another big change for Pratt Miller Motorsports
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is that their parent company Ash Kosh is now listed as the primary sponsor replacing Sirius XM we still have mobile
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one as a sponsor and some of the other people as sponsors there that's big with ashkash now I think they're going to have their name on the rear wing and
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then also right where the frun opening is it's going to be right there as well we're going to see these cars First Time
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In Action coming up in January of course there's the roar before the 24 which is the official practice session there and
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then the week later is the green flag for the 24-hour Daytona I can't wait buddy this is going to be fun we're so
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close I know I want to say 60 days maybe 45 days month and a half two months away it's coming to fast and another team AWA
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took delivery of two GT3 RS like I said there was a lot of corporate racing news there Steve so yeah Canadian racing team
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AWA they are going to be campaigning two Corvette Z06 gt3rs in the GTD amateur
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class so they've got their two radius cars they just picked them up we'll see them in action again at Daytona in 2024
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as well these cars were delivered in that raw black carbon look what just really stuck out at me is for once you
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got that rear Corvette lettering on the back deck it was like in the Chrome letters talk about right from the
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factory of course same chassis you have similar engines just a little bit difference of the engines versus the 5.5
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lers from the Z06 street car and the Racing Car really cool just to see that Corvette lettering there just kind of made it all real so to speak yeah
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absolutely right and also we had an opportunity to get up close and personal with Pratt Miller's Motorsports
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Collective which was really really cool yeah you know if you're a Corvette racing Super Fan this is probably the
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fan club that you'd want to sign up for there's actually three levels of the collective that are available the silver
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package starts at $550 there's a gold package at $1,200 and a platinum package will set you back $3,100 Pratt Miller
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says that these proceeds are used for supplement funding for Corvette racing allows them to do some different things so if you're wondering what these
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packages get you I've got it broken down here Steves if you're thinking Black Friday this might be the time to jump in
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there the silver package is limited to 3,000 members and you get a limited edition merchandise like a t-shirt hat
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and some other things I guess a decal you also get a hand numbered certificate signed by team Executives Gold members
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which is limited to 2,000 will also enjoy access to private two-way messaging directly from Pit Road and
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then they can also listen in team meetings through a secure Web Conference link where fans can listen to real-time
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discussions between the drivers engineers and other team members so I think that would kind of be pretty cool yeah and then the Platinum package also
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gives you a jacket to wear and an admission to one of four IMA races either Sebring Laguna SEO Watkins Glenn
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sponsors and of course you'll be able to Hob Knob with Team Executives and drivers and there's only going to be 300
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of those packages available again if you're a corate racing Super Fan you might want to look into that Collective
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the new fan club coming up from pratton Miller get the checkbook out for the holidays that's for sure also Keith we
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did have one rumor and this isn't a good one either GM has more 2024 Corvettes up
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were initially looking at numberers somewhere between 23 and 25 has grown there's so many cars in that lot we
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can't count but we estimate somewhere over a 100 or so the guy who took the photos is actually a member of the midin
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Corvette forum and his car his 2024 Corvette was built on September 19th it sat at baling green for six weeks and
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then he found out like a week and a half ago that it did get shipped up to Michigan they are doing some stuff up
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there you know one of the things that we did note was in that parking lot it looked like they had Live security sitting in a truck there and then again
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it was all fenced in around it so we do look like it is a secure lot but one of the second updates we got was actually
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from a reader whose car was one of those hundred that went up there he got a little bit more information from his dealer I'm free to share just a little
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bit of that it just basically says that the cars went to Michigan were showing what was called a soft knocking noise
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coming from the rear of the car the dealer contact specifically stated it was nothing structural his thinking was
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it was related to the new transmissions we go from structural to Transmissions we went back to structural and now this
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guy's tell us Transmissions again you can just see that there's no real pinpointing what is this problem that is
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causing these cars to be set up there to be worked on maybe some good news that dealer confirmed to our reader that two
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cars from Michigan arrived at his dealership oh and one of the things that he found interesting was that everything
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that showed that the car was in Michigan was wiped from the history so it looks like nothing's actually happened to
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these cars they were built they've been now delivered to their dealership and I guess they're for sale or they're being picked up by their customer the guy that
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we talked to didn't tell me what his plans were for his car we assume he is picking it up but if they're that
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confident that they're wiping everything and saying it's all fixed then we'll take GM's word that it's all fixed but
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boy it' be nice to have GM's word directly as opposed to coming from two or three people down the lines that's
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what we know from Michigan that's the latest we just wish this would get resolved as quickly as possible they'd be a great holiday gift to get under
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Keith cornette from Corvette blogger.com if you want a deeper dive into any of the stories that Keith and I cover you
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can always go to Corvette blogger.com in this final segment we always talk about the lighter side of Corvette Keith this
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was really cool to see Motor Trend adds the Z06 to its long-term test Fleet what
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does that actually mean and entail well I think it's good news for Corvette enthusiasts because we can expect to see
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them do all kinds of fun stuff the car that they normally couldn't do if they got the car for like a week from General Motors they'll take it to the track they
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do their test they measuring and stuff like that but it's really living with the car that you find out how good it is
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a car is added to their long-term test Fleet their drivers will be able to check it out go on trips or across town
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or just treat it like a daily driver it's just there to be checked in and out and then generally what happens is these
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long-term cars they'll get updates sporadically throughout the year we've seen some other magazines do this with
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the stingray they'll do like a 20,000 mile update or 30 or 40,000 mile update they list all the maintenance cost and
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things like that the Z6 that was added to Motor Trend is a z7 performance package on it oh it's got the visible
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carbon fiber Wheels as well good stuff to know they're going to be testing this they actually made the announcement from
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a video shoot with the car racing around the Radford racing school in Chandler Arizona Johnny liberman one of the
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editors there made that announcement it means more fun for us I guess you know of course more fun for them they get to drive the car but I think it's always
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just important that we find out as much about the cars we can especially those that are really into it these everyday kind of situations and not just these
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temporary tests where a magazine or a website gets it for three days or a week and does whatever they can during that
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time and then has to Let It Go pretty cool stuff there of course the ZO6 was motor trend's 2023 performance car of
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the year so whenever they get one of those big Awards they really want to get it in for that long-term test it's all
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good for Corvette enthusiasts I'm looking forward to seeing what they find out as an everyday driver with a Z6 z7
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speaking of Z6 and z7 we had one sell at the meum auction in Las Vegas for
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$264,000 wow yeah this tied for fourth on the all-time highest prices we've
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seen for Z6 out of meum auction this was a beautiful rapid blue Corvette Z6 it had the atomic orange stripe down the
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middle of it had the z7 package with the carbon fiber Arrow the carbon fiber Wheels it was just a big number that it
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got the car actually was VIN number 554 so it was built in early 2023 and the as
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the owner held it for longer than 6 months the full factory warranty was also transferable to the new owner good
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the video shows the bidding hot and heavy for this car it hammered at 240 so the 264 is with the buyer's commission
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but the new owner Steve was a lady who purchased the car and we are certain
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that she will love it yeah absolutely she'll love it also speaking of cars that sold at auction Keith we talked
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about this car two weeks ago in our last news and headline show Slash from Guns and Roses had a 66 C2 and that sold for
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$227,000 yeah you know he let this car go back I think in 2011 same place
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Julian's auction house in Beverly Hills they do a lot of memorabilia and
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especially from music and movies and stuff like that this was the car that slash bought once the band became
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popular in the mid 80s or so probably following appetite of Destruction he got a check and went out and bought a 66
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Corvette I think it's got a 427 in it what was interesting was the bid for this car was expected to be between $100
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$200,000 and it actually sold for $220 s with the commission on it slash says that one of the modifications he made
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specifically to the car was adding tinted windows because people would come up and see him and throw the LGH horns you know the two fingers up and want to
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rock and roll with him we also found the keychain actually has Slash's name there the little Skull and Bones on it pretty
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cool car you need to drive a car that you could say was unson by slashy Guns and Roses boy that's another great car
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that sold for a lot of money so that's really really cool Steve I would just be rocking around driving and listening to
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Paradise City all the time absolutely right that's the way to do it that's the only way to do it in that car for sure
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and Keith this isn't necessarily a Corvette story but it's a GM story that I thought was really cool GM is
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registered now to build and Supply engines for Formula 1 yeah so if you follow Formula 1 racing of course we
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just had the big F1 race at Las Vegas a week and a half ago you know that Michael andred has been trying to break
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into the sport and he got a boost from General Motors who is registered with the F1 governing body become an engine supplier but that won't begin until 2028
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and Drey and GM announced their F1 partnership earlier this year they're going to be racing under the Cadillac
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Banner so that's pretty cool yeah there's so many politics you know you think NASCAR's got politics you should
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see F1 they make NASCAR look like a bunch of elementary school kids right there's a ton of politics and jockey the
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team owners themselves get to vote on whether or not to expand the teams and if you vote to expand the team you're basically voting to take less money
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because that's what happens is the pots get divided up even more we would definitely love to see a Cadillac in F1
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they said that if Andre's bed is successful if everything go goes correctly it could happen as soon as 2025 but it doesn't sound like it's
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going to be a smooth ride for him at all GM's engines themselves wouldn't start until 2028 so they'd have to find
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another engine from a different supplier leading up to that date like I said a lot of stuff behind the scenes but it's
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going to be interesting to see how that all shakes out yeah the governing body for Formula 1 has voted to put them in
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that's the FIA but all the teams don't want to share money with anybody else they don't want that extra team that
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make 11 teams instead of 10 teams so they don't want Drey in there because they' have to split the money even
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smaller exactly yeah you cut your own paycheck why would you do that right right well Keith our final story this is
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pretty cool Car and Driver magazine used to do a 0 to 100 miles per hour and then a zero contest well they recreated it
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but they went 0 to 150 to zero but the ZO6 really did well didn't it yeah it
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actually came in second in this test the car has ceramic brakes on them so obviously we're expecting a big stopping
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distance the car was only second to the Porsche 9911 Turbo s that car went from 0 to 150 back to zero again in 19.3
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seconds and then the Corvette Z6 did it in 22.5 seconds just within 4 feet 5
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feet of that top spot there third on the list was another portion the GT3 RS did it in 24.4 seconds Cadillac ct5v
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Blackwing did that in 24.7 seconds so right behind the Porsche there and then I thought this was kind of cool the
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Bentley Continental GT speed those cars just look huge to me they do they had a stop distance of 24.8 wow they right
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there they beat the Ford Mustang Dark Horse they did a Volkswagen Gulf R which was 40.2 seconds and then last on the
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list was a Honda Civic typar their stopping distance was forever I guess it took them longer to get to 150 though it
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took them 45 seconds to get to 150 maybe if I'm reading this chart right yeah but their zero to 150 back to zero was 52.7
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seconds oh boy if you go to Car and Driver they didn't have any of this that you could embed the individual ones but
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you can see the z06's test and how they do that again just really interesting that you know you're driving fast and
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then you stump on the brake and you measure and that's your time yeah it's a cool test I know that the kexec did
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really really well but you're talking about hypercars here that are millions of dollars and they do that with those
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and it's really really cool well one of the things people were saying was there were supposed to be a Tesla plaid and
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the Lucid air Sapphire those were supposed to be part of the test I don't know what happened to Lucid they said that the Tesla got a nail on the tire on
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the way to the test and they didn't have a replacement tire for it oh that's the things that we say when you want to be
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in the race but you don't want to race itself you know oh yeah I got a tire got a tire that we need to have plugged yeah
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it was a good event and cor did really well yeah that's awesome well Keith happy holidays buddy it's great to have
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you back on the show and we'll talk again in two weeks yeah you know we're going to kick off here we're heading into December so much news happening all
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kinds of stuff everything from production to racing of course all the lifestyle stuff so stay tuned and if we see you out there on the streets keep
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