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America Sports Car Keith welcome back to the show what's going on buddy wow it's April 1st and I have not yet fallen for
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any good pranks yet so I'm feeling pretty good about myself I've been on guard all day I went to bed last night
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put a Post-It note on my computer so when I booted up first thing this morning I said don't fall for any jokes
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good idea I should have done that myself but I'm okay we got nothing going on here in Kansas City so it's all good
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excellent well and I can't believe it's April either I mean that's the crazy thing Man March just flew by Buddy and that's all right yeah we got lots of
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news coming up here don't we yes we do let's get to it yes let's do it let's start with a production update at Bowling Green assembly plant yeah thanks
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D so as of Wednesday of last week we are seeing the 2024 model year production standing at
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23,6 units combined that's all three models but 23,000 already that's a good
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healthy number for the model year and we still got some months to go out looking at the Stingrays we started the month of
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March at VIN number 15,1 126 wow and as of Wednesday of last week we ended at
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17,8 188 during March they built a total of 2762 stingrays they're just cranking out
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these cars right now for ZO6 we started the month of March at then number 4,112 and then last week we hit 4,906 so
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they built 794 Z sixes in March there might be a couple extra coming in I think on Friday they were off for Good
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Friday so I think they worked up till Thursday there's going to be 5,000 co6 is built for the model year sometime
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during this week that's a great milestone it just shows that between last year production totals and this year's production totals were well over
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12,000 cars or so maybe 11,000 cars for a Z06 we think is you know very low
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production that's quite a bit of cars that are out there for that yeah that really is and then finally the eay you
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know we're still in the ramp up phase and I know everybody's tired of it we're kind of twilling our thumbs and ready to go to give you the March production
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totals you know we started at number 134 and we ended at 212 so that's only 78
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cars built for the month some insiders are saying that you know everything's under control don't worry nothing to panic here but what we can really need
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from the e-rays is to just take some of that production numbers away from the Stingrays they've been building like 185
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Stingrays for example if we could get that e-r to cut into that because dealership lists for the Stingrays
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they're mostly exhausted right we're hearing that some smaller dealers now are rejecting additional allocations because they have cars on the lot and
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meanwhile dealer stock inventory are really growing we saw some numbers I think Le Stanford had close to 40 some
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cars on the lot ready to go that are brand new 2024 Corvette Stingray there's some great opportunities for buying out
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there 23,000 cars for the model year and everyone seems to be doing good we just need that eay to start popping up but I
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think it's going to happen pretty soon yeah I think so too also Keith we had a big story there's a lot of controversy
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on this GM started a program where there were sharing customer driving data with insurance agencies but that got xn and
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everything is off the line now isn't it yeah and it's amazing how fast this came into the Public's eye and then how
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quickly GM reacted to it probably one of the biggest stories we've had for the year it all started with multiple articles coming from the New York Times
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of all places GM's OnStar was being used to track the driving habits of owners and many owners didn't realize their
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cars were spying on them we know that the cars had black boxes we know Police use them to determine like how fast somebody was going before a crash we
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know that GM uses them to determine were you doing something you shouldn't have to avoid your warranty so we know that
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they do stuff like that but we didn't think that they would really sell out their customers for additional Revenue this is a program that supposedly netted
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them they won't give us a figure they just say it's in the low Millions but the program was called smart driver and
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it required consent but many people don't ever remember giving consent we know that a lot of times when you get a new car they want you to punch that
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OnStar button to activate the service it just kind of snowballed from there so the New York Times shared a story from
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first the Chevy bolt owner whose insurance coverage went up dramatically as did quotes from other companies when
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he started looking around finally he had an insurance agent said hey you got a Lexus Nexus data report on you and when
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he requested a copy of it he was shocked to find $200 58 pages that covered daily driving habits over the last 6 months
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wow and that underlying data was provided to Lexus Nexus by General Motors so what they do is they create a
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risk score and then provided that data to insurance companies who used it for determining insurance coverage when we
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first heard the story we're like hey man you better go check your my Chevrolet app and see if it's in there and of course sure enough people were saying
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yeah I was signed up for it and you had to jump through all these hoops there's like three different areas you had to opt out to make sure that you weren't
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signed up for it but right after that first article came out then another one came out that said a Cadillac owner was
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suing GM after his driving habits led to his insurance I think being cancelled
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and then he couldn't get it for like seven different companies because his Lexus Nexus report showed speeding
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heartbreaking acceleration you know all the things that make driving a performance car fun once that lawsuit
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hit the news GM came out with a statement just a couple days later saying they are ending the data sharing program because they want to quote
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protect their customers information and customers were coming with torches and pitchforks I think GM made the right
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decision there I understand also for those concerned that these driving reports might be out there at Lexus
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Nexus there is a process that you can go to them and request your file and then request them to not share it it's some
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more Hoops to jump through but if you something you're concerned about like if you were in your my Chevrolet app and you saw that you were signed up for this
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program you might want to go directly to Lexus Nexus and see if you can get them to suppress that information from being
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shared out there which I think I did see some people on Facebook saying that they were able to do it but it took calling
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it took some emails to get it done you know when we buy a car we're giving them our hard earned money right and we
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expect that they treat us fairly and I'm glad that GM reverse course on it me too that's a good thing it was a sticky
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situation it looks like it all has a happy ending that's for sure yeah speaking of GM they issued a TechLink
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article if you have a hard top convertible C8 with a leaky roof they've got something to fix it don't they yeah
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now this is not like a recall or anything like that this is just you know as car come in they start to see Trends
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and one of the trends they've seen on the 2020 through 2024 Corvette Convertibles is that occasionally there might be some water leaks on the side
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glass windows the leak they say it's about the middle to the rear of the Side Glass and a lot of times it can be
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noticed with water like getting inside the car when it's exposed like a high press Car Wash they say that the Side
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Glass leak might leak due to a variations in the ceiling between the roof panel seal so what they'll do is
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they'll put like a special piece of foam in there and make sure it's all kind of sealed up better the Tech link article is for service technical people to know
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how to fix it no real idea how many cars may be suffering from this but hard top convertible sales are around 48% of all
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corvettes so it could be a high number but again it's just how you care for your car those people that are handwashing their cars probably will
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never have this issue but it sounds like if you're using some high pressure water that's where it might be getting up into
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the seal itself and then underneath it again something to consider if you are using a pressure washer to wash your car
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going to the car washes take some care around any of the rubber seals anyways because you don't want to force that
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back and let that water in there glad to see that they're being proactive on this definitely our final story in the news
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section Keith the MCM Motorsports Park has added to their Fleet its two new e-rays that's pretty cool yeah and you
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know a couple of the people from the Motorsports Park they actually drove up to Detroit and then drove these cars back and they stopped at a couple
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different shows along the way and made it a nice little event for them the good news is that if you're interested in eay
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you can go now book some track time at the Motorsports Park in Bowling Green it'll give you some lead follow tour
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laps and then you can also ride with a professional driver who does like the heavy accelerated launches and hot laps in the car one of the interesting things
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is the reasons why you know with only couple hundred corette eays built one of the reasons why they got them is because
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they're's actually doing training right now at the Motorsports Park where sales reps are coming in from all across the
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country they're being trained on the eay and ZO6 so there a combination of like classroom instruction they'll do some on
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track activities and the dealers are paying like $3,600 to send one rep to baling green for this I actually talked
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to a rep that was there this week he said it was a great time they learned a whole lot about the cars they did
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classroom instruction you know learning about the features and that kind of thing and then also just being in the car and and being to experience it for
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that first time he's pretty eye opening with the eay that's cool that's really cool well buddy it's time for our first
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4231 I'm your host Steve Garrett with me is Keith cornet from Corvette blogger.com every other week we keep you
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current and up toate on what's happening with America Sports car in segment number two we always cover Corvette
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racing and Corvette rumors let's start with racing first Keith and review the 12 hours at Sebring yeah you know we're
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still kind of doing some teeing issues with these new race cars but there's some good stuff that's happening it's kind of a mixed bag for both one of the
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things that started right away is you know we ran some good qualifying laps at Sebring but then you know at the
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beginning of the race all four Corvettes were moved to the very back of the pack because they were found to have some
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non- homologated parts on them the team's still trying to fix F this out and do some things but wh was watching I
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guess for Corvette racing we'll start there first it was really a mixed result it was a what could have been moment you know the number three Corvette Z6 was
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right there it had the pace it was in contention for a Podium finish probably would have finished third within the last five minutes and then all of a
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sudden they were knocked off the course by that green number 77 Porsche 911 known as Rexy that contact pushed the
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car right off the track they ended up finishing 10th in class the Porsche was given a drive-through penalty so it did
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affect them as well they ended up finishing ninth in class but the point I'm trying to make is that we were there we were there at the end the problem is
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at the very end of Sebring everybody's throwing elbows and doing whatever they can and it's dark and there's not a lot
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of camera angles on some of those dark Corners at night time and I think some people were taking some advantage of that the number four Corvette again
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developed an issue with its Electronics they started trying to mess with it and by the sixth hour of the race halfway
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through they just said you know what we need to bring it in they replaced what they called a main relay and then from there it just turned into more of a
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testing and diagnostic session for them while I also see if they could help out the sister car not all was good with the
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number three car they lost their AC compressor in the middle of the race and that was a hot day so those cars were running without air conditioning in the
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cockpit where temperatures were like 120° the number three car persevered in GTD the AWA racing number 13 this is the
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yellow and black car it actually finished ninth in class it was on the lead lap and mostly ran a trouble-free Race So that is very good news we're
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glad to hear that however the second Corvette for AWA once again had electrical issues and it retired very
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early in the race I want to say it was out within the first one or two hours of the race unfortunately for them they didn't get a chance that's the green one
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or the teal car with the red stripe on it our next conversations also about that car but the next race for the insta
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Corvettes Long Beach on April 19th and 20th and then also that weekend that's going to be a great race weekend because
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we'll also have the World Endurance Championship over in Italy on April 21st lots of racing happening in April that
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weekend that's I guess the weekend before the bash I'm glad that it won't be the weekend of the bash yeah that's definitely true yeah and I was going to
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ask you about AWA racing they're down to one Corvette now aren't they what happened there yeah so just to take you
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back a little bit AWA racing was handpicked by GM racing to feel the two new Corvette z6s in the GTV class in
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imsa at Daytona both cars failed to finish and then at Sebring obviously the number 13 car did well but it was the 17
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car that dropped out very early what had happened I guess behind the scenes is this led to a division of the AWA team
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as one of the team's members Anthony Mantella has quote elected to step away from the GT program at this time that
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was the statement that AWA racing put out in GTD class you generally have a gentleman driver who's a bronze rated
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driver and then you have your higher rated drivers and your professional drivers that are also paired with them but generally it's the gentleman driver
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that's paying the bills so to speak Anthony Mantella is the owner of the number 17 ZO6 race car and after Sebring
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he says he's putting the car up for sale and I guess he's walking away according to the statement yikes on Instagram he
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says M suspect GTD Corvette race car for sale used very infrequently hasn't finished race perfect for the collector
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who wants the latest iron from pratton Miller Corvette racing not a perfect race car but unobtanium to the public
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all the racing websites jumped on this and were saying what's going on here thankfully the fans they really kind of
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lit him up for basically taking his race car and going home yeah it reminds me of the old joke Steve you know if you want
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to make a little money in racing you better start with a lot we'll really keep an eye on the situation but it looks like AWA racing is just going to
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be have the one car now for the rest of the season and that really kind of threw a crimp into to GM Racing's background
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of wanting to put two cars in GTD two cars in the GTD Pro class over here now only down to one what happens now is
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that car doesn't get developed anymore you know if it's just sitting there it's not getting the updates and upgrades
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that the other cars are getting when they're finding out oh this needs to be changed because we found this or that
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again a bad situation not good for AWA racing or GM racing we'll just have to see what happens with this car but you
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know if you have $750,000 laying around that's reportedly what these race cars were selling for wow meaning the teams
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had to put that money up but there's also all the equipment the training and all the other expenses that were incurred so he might want a little bit
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more for it who knows Steve my question though is if he sells the car will the next owner of it lose the
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warranty I mean it's been within six months right that's right yeah he just raced the car once and he's going home
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there you go we'll have to see what happens with that that'll be a developing story yes it will be let's turn to rumors Keith we saw that maybe
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the new C8 ZR1 might have some carbon fiber Wheels like the ZO6 didn't we you
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know we don't really have any real spec shed on the ZR1 we've been watching the cars whenever they're out in public they were at the nurburg ring last October
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for two weeks and during that time they were only wearing their alloy wheels they were not wearing carbon fiber wheels at all when they were over there
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unlike the z6s and even the eays had the carbon fiber wheels that led us to wonder really is the ZR1 going to a
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larger wheel size or different design but then there was a press release that came out from carbon Revolution touting
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the eay which is also being able to order with the visible carbon fiber wheel the same Wheels as the Z6 and the
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quote from the president of the company said the following General Motors Corvette Z6 and ZR1 have been some of
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government revolution's most successful high volume programs we expect that given the recent performance awards for
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the eay this program will continue the trend of success we're thinking that his mentioning of the ZR1 the statement
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means that yeah the car will have carbon fiber Wheels it was a Freudian slip he was talking about Z6 and eay but he did
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say ZR1 and this is something that we watch because these are breadcrumbs that are dropped right sure sure we don't
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know if they're going to be the same Wheels as the Z6 and the eay if they're different however after we shared the rumor the press release was suddenly
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updated to remove ZR1 from that statement people sort of laughed at us but it's these Minor Details that a lot
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of times give us the Glimpse behind the curtain of what's happening or wait to see what happens but we have no word at all when the ZR1 will be revealed to the
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public although we still really kind of feel it might be a 2025 model that'll come in the middle of the model year and
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not launched at the beginning of the model year well I'd love to see that car especially if it was of the bass that'd be nice mhm also Keith we saw the first
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2025 ZO6 was spotted in the Bowling Green assembly plant parking lot and it didn't look like we had any changes to
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the greaty wall of buttons either yeah that was something we've talked about several times here the interior changed
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for 2025 appears to be dead there were signs that were kind of pointing that way a lot of conversations behind the
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scenes but yeah we just got our first glimpse of a 2025 Corvette Z6 it's a captured test F car so this is a
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sailable VIN meaning that after GM is done testing it they can then sell it off to one of their dealers as a
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pre-owned car the funny thing about this rumor is that when you talk to C8 owners they really tend to like the great wallet buttons and I think that most
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people actually still prefer having physical buttons over the use of touch screens but that's where the industry is going in fact there was a GM Authority
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article that talked about a couple future other GM vehicles that were moving physical buttons and putting them
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on touch screens only and of course Tesla does that right a lot of the EVS seem to be all touchs screeny as opposed
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to having the physical buttons this is a rumor I don't think is going to go away maybe it jumped the gun a little bit
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early so we could be off by a year or two maybe it's something that when they come out if they end up doing a midcycle
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refresh you know we've seen that over the years where like C6 for example 2008 they come out with the LS3 more power in
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2012 they came out with a new interior seats even though it was two years before the end of the model year they AR
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not going to make changes that they don't think they need to it's something that might still be ER but again not for
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2025 unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you feel about it I like the grey Walla buttons I don't have any problem with it whatsoever yeah
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mostly people are say oh yeah you can't hold hands with your significant other there's times for that elsewhere our final rumor Keith eay
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owners make sure you check your high battery system coolant reservoir caps what is all that about so a new eay
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owner was checking under the hood and he was looking at all the different fluids and stuff on his car he had the HTC so
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he pulled back the rubber flap and found that the cap for the high voltage battery system coolant reservoir he
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found that that cap was loose and vibrating he was able just to pick it up off the car so probably that rubber flap
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was keeping it on but he said check your fluids with the car running he said it was just vibrating and doing thing so he tightened it down and then he's like oh
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man I forgot to even look and see if there was any coolant in there then he couldn't get it off because if you check
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the owner's manual this is not something that's designed to be filled or checked or anything by you and me this is a
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dealership thing there is a trick to do it you use a screwdriver there's a little Tab and you just got to put it down in there and spin it and then it'll
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eventually come off but he actually then called another eay owner and said hey man my cap was loose will you check
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yours and the other guy checked his and his cap was Loose as well we actually checked with another eay owner their cap
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was fine no issues there again just one of those things we don't know if this is something that happened at the plant if there something that happened at the
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dealership during PDI when you get a new car it's always good to give your own once over you know check your own fluids
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make sure caps are sealed in that kind of thing for sure very interesting all right buddy well let's take our final
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is Keith cornet from Corvette blogger.com if you want
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3 Model all the way up through last year's model right really great honor again the Corvette is America's favorite
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sports car and we're glad to be driving it absolutely also there is a video a tire comparison video between the C8 Z6
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tires and the eay tires yeah this is a new eay owner he has a YouTube channel
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he had a stingray previously he already owns a ZO6 and then he said he took delivery of a 2024 eay for his wife he
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already had the car up on jackon was replacing the muffler he putting on a hooker black exhaust system I believe he
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said he had all three widebody tires lined up in his garage he had the Michelin cup two RS from his Z6 he had
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the Pilot Sport 4S's from the Z06 and then the Pilot Sport All Seasons from the eay with all of them lined up
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they're all the same size Corvett at the 275s up front the 345s in the rear but that's really about where the similarities end each tire has its own
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purpose and it's still surprising when you see there's basically no tread at all on the cup two RS even the Pilot
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Sport 4S's they're really light but then you see the tread pattern from the allseason tires you're thinking wow man
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you know the grip the idea that you can dry those in the rain and the snow is pretty cool of the off season Tire he
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says he's driven with them on he says they're really good Michelin tells us that on the skid pad the difference between the all seasons and the 4S tires
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are just 0.1g and any casual driver is not going to notice that that's why with
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the eay you know you can upgrade to the Zur package and get the 4S tires but the all seasons are just so good I don't
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know why you would wouldn't just continue to stick with them unless you were really actually doing some track events or things like that yeah this
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wasn't really a performance test it was just line them up all three looking at the similarities and differences of it
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they're actually really quite different so it's pretty cool nice little video to see and this same owner he did another video where he was just driving around
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put miles on the car he had a little over 200 breaking miles so far and we just talking about some of his
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impressions of it but apparently he likes it we need to get these cars out there broken in and then get them on the
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tracks and do some fun things with them and see how they really do compare someone give me a r-ray I'll get some
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miles on it for them that's for sure I know there's a couple at the NCM Motorsports Park yes there is and we also had an
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oops moment buddy there was a 2024 ZO6 that actually got Stingray door Sills
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instead of the ZO6 door Sills yeah it was actually just one it was on the passenger side so imagine you got your
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car you're out there working on it you're doing some things you open up the door and you're like what happened here I always find these Mix-Ups to be a
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little bit fun over the years it's just a little bit of levity in the process generally it's easily correctable some
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of the things we've seen in the year we had a guy get a two-tone Boomerang early in C8 production we know a guy that got
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two different styles of seats and then there was a guy I think just last year he picked up a Z6 and it had a stingray
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emblem on the rear deck of the car and the funny thing is he's doing the delivery of the car he's got to pull the
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white transport wrapper off they're walking around it never even did pick it up until afterwards he gets home and
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starts seeing reports of man my car is looking a little unique here yeah you know what of the things we like to ask
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is is this a factory error that you would correct you know with the door cell you'd never see it we'd ran a poll
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on it Reader say it's a co6 and the seal plates need to say Z6 so kind of overwhelmingly 6040 people say change
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the plates yeah something fun that happens this doesn't happen all the time in fact it's pretty rare that we find
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errors like this so when it does come up like I said it's kind of a fun moment for everybody and maybe that's why this story is in the lighter side of Corvette
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today there you go yes also Corvette was named as one of the top 20 vehicles that's better to buy new rather than buy
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used so this is a study comes from IC cars they've done these studies over the years they've always got a monthly study
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out with this one they look at the prices of 1.6 million new and lightly used cars and then they break it all
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down and determine whether you're better off to buy new or used with that car with the Corvette they found that
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pre-owned Corvettes these are 2022 and 2023 they only show a price difference of around 88.4% off of the new cars from
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2023 2024 so you're talking about maybe $7,000 difference buying used over new
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with the average price of the Corvette being 76,000 it does appear to make a lot of sense to just go ahead and buy
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the new car versus the used car because the savings still aren't all that great right we ranked out of the top 20 we
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were I believe number 17 there okay everybody would love to have a new car but some people are like I'm just going
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to take the pre-owned and you already remove some of that depreciation from your bottom line already so for some
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people it does make sense to buy Ed regardless again it's just interesting to see the study done and those numbers
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presented to you yeah definitely our final story Keith and this is so timely because last week's episode on Corvette
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today was celebrating the 50 years of lingan felter performance engineering well we found out that lingan felter is
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supercharging an eay now yeah so I think about a week ago or two weeks ago we had a video of the first eay on the dyno it
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was kind of shocking because it ran up to 573 wheel horsepower but the torque levels were off the charge 630 foot- PBS
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of torque on there it seem to be higher than what we'd be estimating you know you take that 15% loss of power at the
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wheels Paragon performance actually did the dyno they had a special Dyno hooked up where they could measure both the front and the rear wheels so that's how
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they got those numbers but as soon as they were done with that car they did some other things on it you know some dress up parts and things like that but
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then they shipped the car up to lingan felter Performance engineering who then put one of their Magnuson superchargers on it from linol felter following on
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their Instagram we see they took the engine out they were doing some work on it engine goes back in and then we get
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the test drive and during that test drive you can actually hear the supercharger whine behind you while on
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the front wheels you kind of hear that electronic motor wine unique to the e-r it's really a sound that sounds one like
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none to use the Corvette team's terms one like none we have no details yet on any power gains I'm expecting it to be
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fairly significant but the good news is as they were doing the test drive the guy from linol Felder was saying the
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front wheels and the rear wheels they're independently controlled but they playing very nicely together with the additional power from the supercharger
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very anxious to see what kind of powers a supercharger will add to this and where that eay will end up at but pretty
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cool and congratulations to this new owner who's got a very unique car yeah absolutely right we'll have to get Kling
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and filter back on the show and find out what the final performance numbers are and the horsepower and torque that'd be
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really interesting to find out it would be and something tells me you've got his phone number on speed dial so let's get
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that going I think I do buddy that's right well Keith thanks for being back
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