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to keep you up to date on what's happening with america's sports car keith welcome back how's it going oh
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very glad to be back steve doing well there's no news but there's lots of news and of course we're still all waiting on
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pricing which is the biggest question mark out there for the z06 but we're persevering we're pushing through
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hopefully the patience will maintain itself and then we'll get something this week we really are starting to run out
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of time in terms of when we'll get this pricing information get the order guide let the dealers know their initial
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allocations when the start of ordering will be and then of course the start of production it seems like it's moving forward we're hearing some good things
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behind the scenes which we'll talk about in a second so i'd say things are pretty good well that's good like you said
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patience is a virtue and i'm just sitting over here being patient that's all i'm doing i hope that we do get some pricing at least this week or next week
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we really need to get on that because the clock is ticking we're still looking at summer availability which is probably
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production starting up sometime in september like we did last time we backtracked it you've got about six to
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eight weeks to really get everything set up and go it's important for the manufacturing of the car too because
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those initial orders will set the baseline take rates for a lot of these options and for example the z06 you've
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got to know how many carbon fiber wheels are going to be made right right you got to know how many are ordered this is going to be this whole game played with
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the suppliers again once we get the initial take rates in and stuff but let's get to the news and we'll get to that stuff sounds good let's get an
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update on production at the bowling green assembly plant well you know they were closed last week for independence
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day normally they take a summer shutdown it's in the uaw contract it was actually only four days in our case because the
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fourth was a federal holiday on the monday when they returned we're looking at vin number 4583 will be the one that
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comes off first once they return to work we should see over 5000 bins for the 2023 model year produced during the week
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as well i'm really hoping that with that week off we're still able to get some parts in and so that at least as we ran
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back up here and start off production this week that it's running smoothly we're getting good car counts through
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the production cycle the big question is we got july ordering coming up big question will be the 70th anniversary
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wheels and just how much more mag ride is being affected i think we're getting out of those woods hopefully the 70th
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anniversary wheels will be off a constraint and we can get back to seeing these 70th anniversaries on the road
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that would be nice also some other good news we had chevrolet delivering 8 630
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corvettes in the second quarter yeah that was a very good number it's an 8.3 increase in deliveries over the second
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quarter of 2021 we saw 79.71 corvettes last year sold so it's all just around
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these shutdowns and these supply chain issues of why we can't get to ten thousand we take off that week we take
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off a few days here and there and then we're doing car counts like in the 83s 85s if we could get to that 10 000
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that's 40 000 a year and boy there'd be a whole lot of happy customers doing that wouldn't that absolutely for the
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calendar year to date we've seen 17 441 new corvettes delivered and that's
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running almost 20 ahead of last year that is very good news i would say you know last year at this time only
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fourteen thousand five hundred cars had been delivered so we're at seventeen thousand four forty one so another three thousand cars we're very lucky as
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corvette owners in the second quarter news release gm announced that they have 95 000 vehicles manufactured without
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certain components they can't deliver those cars they have to wait until they have those components in the cars before
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they can be delivered and then that can be counted as a delivered car which is a sold car for the manufacturers we're
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very lucky you know we had some park assist and of course the mag ride which is just on constraint but they're not building our cars and then parking them
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for three months and saying we're just waiting on parts i think we have been very well protected in that regard very
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true and this is ironic chevrolet said that they delivered more corvettes than camaros in 2022 so far yeah well we gave
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you the year-to-date number for corvettes that was the 17 441 only 11
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255 camaros have been sold during that same time period so the camaro is running behind certain products from
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ford and dodge these days there have been not too many updates to the car over the last few years anyway and the
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rumor is that it might end after the 2024 model year but could come back later on as an evening it's interesting
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the camaros i think they start around 30 32 for corvette to be out selling those cars it just says something about the
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demand for the corvette absolutely and a double the price that bodes well for corvette that's for sure also chevrolet
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has refiled the trademark for the zorro name which i thought was great yeah this is actually the third time i believe
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that federal trade marks when you're reserving a name for future use you have to do it every five years to protect it
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right you start producing that then you get your longer protections but as a future product you only get a certain amount of time it was actually
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registered the first time in 2014 and then again in 2018 it was the second time that we saw it registered what's
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interesting is i went back and looked at this the 2014 trademark was actually an assignment which means that general
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motors probably bought the name from somebody else that was assigned to them in 2014. that's obviously how long
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they've been thinking about possibly naming a corvette model after zora arka stuntoff the first chief engineer for
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corvette going back to 2014 and again the zora could be that top of the line c8 model it would be rumored to be a
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twin turbo 5.5 liter with the electric drive motors on the front wheels and it would see horsepower in excess of a
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thousand and maybe upwards of 1200 horsepower that'll be a monster buddy that'll be a beast that's for sure it'd
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be a great way to close out the c8 generation with really a huge nod to zoroarchist on top who wanted to take
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the car mid engine as far back i think it was 56 or 57 yeah it was on his mind a long time and he was trying to do it
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all the way through his time at general motors and even when he retired he was still pushing the current chief
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engineers to do it a great little tribute for a great band absolutely right also gm had filed another
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trademark for gm restoration what's that supposed to be yeah now this is a little bit more interesting especially for
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classic car owners classic corvette owners not really sure what this is about this looks to be maybe a lineup of
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branded gm restoration parts some old oem parts that are rebranded okay maybe
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they start remaking some old parts under the restoration name porsche's got a classic factory restoration facility
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down in atlanta so maybe it's something like that where you have a group of very experienced classic car rebuilders and
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you could take your classic gm car and they're not just corvettes but it could be a classic cadillac a chevy a buick it
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could be whatever they would actually do the restoration work for you we're gonna be watching that one a little bit closer i've been guessing probably it's more
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parts related at this point but you never know what they're got in mind well i like your idea though having a
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restoration place for people to go to have their classic chevrolet refurbished restoration done i think that'd be a
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fantastic idea also buddy we've got a good news and a bad news thing let's cover the bad news first corvette fell
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from 5th to 11th on thecars.com american made index so what's going on with that
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yeah so there's two of these studies out there there's the co good business school of american made cars and then there's the cars.com american-made index
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and they both have a little bit slightly different methodology the cars.com study they look at the assembly location parts
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so there's a whole bunch of different little moving parts and combinations that they look at the whole of the vehicle and then they're able to
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basically assign it a ranking from that we were fifth last year and this year we've dropped to 11th number one on the
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list was the model y from tesla and in fact tesla had four of their cars all
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four models in the top ten so they're obviously heavy users of american-made content and that's why they're showing
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up so high also interesting is in terms of other domestic cars there was the leaking corsair came in at number three
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and the jeep cherokee came in seventh on the list we also saw like three hondas in front of us and then of course the
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corvette was 11. i don't think it's really any big change for us in terms of bragging rights in fact we might even
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see some additional changes once the z06 comes online i would believe the transmission will be made out of canada
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at the st catharines plan so there's another ranking there that transmission origin where is it coming from if it's
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not america at least it's north america right right that's how they do their rankings based on the parts content i
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think the co good the other survey actually looks at ownership and where's the management based out of and some
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other things that helps us be more than like honda which might seem management based out of japan right well the good
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news is corvette had the least amount of issues in jd power's initial quality survey yeah this was huge news that made
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the corvette team very happy i saw a facebook post by harlan putting out that news this is huge news a new corvette
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has the least issues of any new cars of the 2022 and they survey i think close to about 300 000 people from that they
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figure out surveys are almost 200 and some 250 questions long so from that they're really able to get down and
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figure out how people are feeling about their new cars the stingray success was actually a reflection probably of
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chevrolet was ranked third overall did very well they had five bowtie models in the survey winning their category so
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it's all good stuff there as far as manufacturers go buick was first on the list dodge was second and then chevrolet
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was third so american manufacturers are really stepping up and addressing these quality things we thought that certain
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other manufacturers did better but that's not the case anymore that's great well buddy let's take our first break when we come back we'll talk about
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second segment we'll talk about corvette racing and corvette rumors first of all keith corvette racing gets a podium at
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the canadian tire motorsports park that was exciting to see yeah you know it's our first time back in canada since
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before the pandemic we got a second place finish there from the number three car taylor and garcia are now in second
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place in the gtd pro drivers championship we're actually running over 100 points behind the number nine
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porsche 911 team though so it's gonna be tough to catch up to them chevrolet has also moved into second though in the
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manufacture championship and there's four races left in the season it was a race where we were in contention we were
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running second and third and every time we got close to that number nine porsche it just seemed to pull away from us and then we got into a couple situations
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where some yellow flags and some restarts that kind of screwed up our strategy but for a car that i think
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started sixth or seventh on the pole was a good finish for the team absolutely and also we have emsa coming up at lime
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rock park yeah the boys will be back on saturday at limerick park in new york this will be a good one this is a gt
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only affair so it's just the gtd pros and the amateur cars this should be fun lime rock is a small track i think it's
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only one and a half miles so maybe just a little bit longer than that wow boy it's a short track so they got just the
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gt cars on there and it's always a lot of fun when it's just the gt cars we actually have a chance to go for the
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overall race win here it's a pretty short race too i think it's just a two-hour race format so should be pretty
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good interesting and we also are racing at monza with the wec aren't we this is going to be on sunday morning or so we
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just had that race unfortunately we don't have the results here but we do have the official team results up at
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corvetteblogger.com so you can read them there that sounds good let's get into rumors now keith we had three really
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juicy rumors here we have over 50 cft c8 z06s that have already been built isn't
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that true yeah we went from really no news on the ctfs the ctfs are captured
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test fleet cars and generally they have what are called sailable vends these are vends that do not have the ex after them
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any corvette that was produced with that ex fan is going to be crushed but these other ones are sailable vans so they'll
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use them for testing and then eventually they'll end up back in the used car pipeline dealers can bid on and get a
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couple of ctf cars and then sell them that way as a used car this is pretty big news though we went from really no
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news on this to a lot and in fact the last official number on the ctf cars that we saw was 73. again good news we
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know that they're driving them up in detroit and that we also know that team members at the corvette assembly plant
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are driving their cars in fact chuck valentini the paint manager was just on vacation with our friend mike furman
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they were playing golf together and chuck showed up in an elkhart lake blue z06 with the z07 [Laughter]
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working for gm does have some perks absolutely but yeah we are getting these cars out again it's just great to see
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them one of the cars that we had pictures of was kind of the cute story a guy talked about how he sent the spies up to bowling green to check it out of
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course the spies were his parents they did a great job photographing the car they even got the vin of the car
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which is how we knew that that yellow z06 and those pictures was number 55 and in fact one of the fun things is they
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took a selfie of them in front of the car too cute just a real fun photo shoot for somebody and of course the parents
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did a good job well and also it sounds like gm is stockpiling parts for the z06 for customer cars aren't they yeah our
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friends over at mecf the mid-engine corvette forum has sourced this and in fact the part that they said was z06
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specific meaning it's not on the stingray is being produced now as being stockpiled you just had the podcast with
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the guys from carbon revolution john has also been in contact with carbon revolution and they've confirmed that
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they've been shipping wheels for the z06 to the united states to gm already as well now we have a couple different
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manufacturers of parts for the z06 have confirmed that they are stockpiling and making these parts so that's again it's
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just good news hopefully it'll solve the problems with some of the bigger bottlenecks and some of the other issues that we've seen on the stingray this
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year good stuff it's good to hear that they're stockpiling parts and getting ready to build them that's for sure we'll take whatever we can get steve
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absolutely right and also we saw a camouflage corvette now was it a z06 or
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was it an e-ray it was close to yuma arizona wasn't it yeah this is again another interesting photo it was a
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camouflaged car wearing the vinyl wrap the white and black checkerboard kind of final wrap it was spotted outside of
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yumo and the guy on the corvette forum that took the picture said thought it was the e-ray it was a wide-body coupe
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it had no spoiler whatsoever not even the mount sticking out the top it had the corner mounted exhaust which the
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z06s is the export exhaust but it also had the carbon fiber wheels which you can only get the carbon fiber wheels
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with the z07 package but again this car had no z07 specific arrow on it no front
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dive planes that we could see and again no big spoiler on the back it was an interesting car again we are still
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thinking that it was probably the z06 the wheels weren't covered on the car and the engine hatch was actually open
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to be viewed so anybody could go by and look in there and see if it was the 5.5 liter lt6 or it was a 6.2 liter lt2 my
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guess is it was probably just the z06 so they're just continuing to do some testing out there in yuma which is where
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the gm proving ground is well they're just trying to play with us they're just trying to fool us
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hey let's get in the z06 prototype and go drive by some journalists homes that would be nice i'll take that i like that
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idea too that sounds good to me buddy [Music] well let's take our final break keith and when we come back we'll talk about
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rolex watches have fallen significantly wow so there you go it's just one of these things i think it was a cool idea
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the timing on it was not in favor for chevrolet it was a cool idea it was a great color z06 i really liked it i
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wouldn't mind driving that around that's for sure well that's the big news is hopefully that car that color will see
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itself on the corvette stingrays and z06s next year because it's perfect for the exotic mindset i think people will
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love it that sounds good we had a florida sheriff that unveiled a police car ac706
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but i don't think he was very excited about that was he well the car was quote donated and i use the donated with air
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quotes from a felon in escambia county which is up in pensacola we've seen this
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back in the day they find a drug dealer they bust them they take his cars the property whatever they sometimes will
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auction that off use the funds this car is said to be used for community engagement and outreach projects the
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sheriff said that no public money was spent on it was done through donations to wrap the car users are mixed on what
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this will accomplish you know we had the dare programs back in the days right scared the kids straight showed off some
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cool cars but that program ended years ago and so it's just up to departments to do their own little things like this
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you know our users were mixed on it some of the interviews that we saw people locally saying that more could be done
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locally just by selling the car and using those funds versus driving around and saying hey look it's a z06 police
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car we'll see what happens with that people have mixed feelings on it yeah i can understand that for sure also the
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federal trade commission is proposing new rules that target bait and switch tactics and also junk fees i was glad to
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see this and you know this is probably the most significant story that we've had in this podcast steve because
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obviously we've seen that chevrolet and general motors can't police their own dealers from doing all kinds of crazy
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stuff with the z06 pricing whether it's you're going to be fifty thousand dollars over or is this a market
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adjustment or you have to make a significant donation to a charity just to be able to buy a car or you buy a car
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that has all these add-on fees and junk stuff on it and that's exactly what the ftc is going after maybe we will
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actually see some relief here through the federal government a new rule the main text here is it's going to ban junk
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fees and bait and switch advertising techniques that plague consumers through the carbine experience of course we've
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all seen dealer ads where it shows a price you know starting from 350 a month well unless the dealer says it's a lease
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or it's a purchase price that is misrepresenting what it would take to purchase that car another thing that
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they're going to go on are the add-ons and products such as nitrogen-filled tires and window tinting packages things
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that we've seen specifically targeted at corvette owners to be able to buy a car from a dealership you spend six or ten
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thousand dollars to get dealer installed ppf protection for the paint window tinting a lot of this is junk fees it
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does significantly impact your ability to be able to buy a car or not the rule right now it has been written it is now
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in a public comment phase i think that phase goes on for two months or so and then from there we'll see if that
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proposed rule is adopted you know it might be another year before we see any significant impacts from that but it's
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good news that at least that's kind of stuff's being addressed it would be nice to have a coordinate right when the release of the new c806 came out that's
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for sure so that's for sure but again we have all these people on all these lists the sales process is going to be long
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and hard that's definitely for sure absolutely right speaking of z06s we did see a caffeine metallic z06 didn't we
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yeah this is good news again now we've seen all 12 regular production colors on these prototype z06s and we're really
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actually waiting for the 70th anniversary editions to come out it bodes well i've seen all 12 colors this
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color somebody decides to do a06 and caffeine it will probably end up being one of the rare colors because we only
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saw 385 stingrays built with the color last year and if it's anything like zeus bronze the first year the color sells
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better than the second year of the color right we could be seeing a decline of that 385 on the stingray even less than
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that should be a unique car if someone should decide to do that we know there'll be a couple of them out there
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that's for sure i like the zeus bronze i like the caffeine metallic buddy they're great looking colors and you'll get a
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real rare corvette if you buy one in that color also we saw the first z06 70th anniversary spied over the fence
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didn't we again a user went down to the corvette assembly plant and it looks like they flew a drone over the shipping
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lanes i often wonder about the legality of that that would really upset me if i was general motors but sure enough he
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did he flew his drone over the shipping lanes and from that picture you can see of course all kinds of cars lined up
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with the transportation covers on them but there's a whole bunch of cars that were just finished interesting if you're
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looking at one of them there's like four different lines of cars single file lines one of them is like all these cars
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have stripes so they probably all came out of the stripe factory because they put the stripes on at the plant so here's a line of all these stripes and
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there's a black car in there and it looks like it's got white seats well of course the 70th anniversaries have what
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it's called ceramic seating which is again that cement ceramic matrix gray kind of style that very light a little
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tinge of blue maybe just a slight tinge you can basically see a little bit of white in that car and then there's a
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white car it's definitely a z06 you can see the wishbone spear on it's got the big wing on the back and it's sure
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enough it looks like it's got that 70th anniversary badge on the front of the door there nice to be the very first
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white and black car 70th anniversaries that were done the drone shots were actually taken a couple weeks ago it was
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done at the end of june was when he first posted them so those cars could be somewhere right now they could use them
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for show cars car shows and events and other promotional activities and of course media cars as well glad to see
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those out there and can't wait to see them on the road and speaking of the 70th anniversary cars the first stingrays were being shipped as well
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this was a surprise my understanding is that chevrolet used a very limited set of 70th anniversary wheels to produce a
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batch of cars two of them ended up at our friends at criswell chevrolet and our friend mike furman on facebook just
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confirmed that he is getting the white pearl as his personal vehicle it's vin number zero zero seven it's the white
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pearl version and he did not get stripes on it i believe he's taking or will take or has taken
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unless now because he posted that last week he was on vacation but he's getting back so if he hadn't taken delivery of
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the car by friday then he'll probably done so over the weekend nice that sounds good well buddy thank you so much
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for being on corvette today let's get some more news and headlines we'll get back together in two weeks sounds great
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