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Trinity it's quite an intro it's quite an intro Josh holder Haron Charles Tad's
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juter the executive chief engineer brand manager and also the EXE the chief engineer Corvette first before we get
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going Taj has announced his retirement in July congratulations and congratulations are in order you just
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got elected to be in the Corvette Hall of Fame my friend congratulations it's been a week it sure and the reception
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they AB absolutely love you guys well as you know what we do every year when we're at the bash here at the National
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Corvette Museum is we pull everybody on Corvette forum and mid-engine corvette.com we get questions you guys
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answer the questions from the audience and that's what we're going to do again this year our first question we have about 20 questions this year so it's
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going to be fun our first one is from miden engine Corvette forum it's Mr awesome I love that name isn't that
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great he wants to know can we get a more prominent phone and charger icon or notice on the driver information center
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who's going to take that question well I I know we're we we miss this ourselves you know
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we drive these cars all the time and you know I'm fairly untrainable so I was one
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person constantly walking away from the car with my phone in the charger and so we went from having no message to a
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message um so it was a step in the right direction a step in the right direction it yes it's possible to still miss that
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um as you're Gathering your things you know getting of the car so I think it's an interesting question I'm not quite
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sure what you know we have a limited amount of displace display space and we could have a voice come over saying
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idiot you left your phone in the charger it's an option right I I don't know if that's what this person is is getting
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for but it's right there on the the instrument cluster but you do have to look for it this was one of those things
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I think is a positive story because we heard that we experienced it ourselves and we heard that from a lot of customers and this was one of those
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things where because of the electrical we actually were able to update cars
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people already had so would be a software update we were able to do that from software we added that phone and
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charger message to people who already had their cars and a lot of people really thought that was very thoughtful the way that we added that in that's
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really good so he was asking could we get a notice on the diic and and that came out with that update that harland's
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talking about so Mr awesome and anyone else out there that's not seeing that should check for the latest software
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updates that would come over the air and they would get that Improvement it comes with a chime and a notice on the DIC if
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you're not paying attention you can still forget but it's better than better than nothing that's perfect well at least we you guys have been thinking in
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this direction anyway so that's perfect our next question is from Corvette Ed from Corvette form he says are Graphics
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like the Jake Graphics installed at the factory or the dealerships because some dealerships don't have the capability to
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actually install the graphics well we do have Graphics install at the factory
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at and there's um but we it's a limited what they can do you know it has to meet
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the the mass production whatever so they we do like the racing Graphics the full length and we do the the hood Stingers
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there and we did the Ann 70th Anniversary when we did that at the factory but then the ones that are a
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little bit more distinct maybe lower volume like the specialty ones like we had the stingray R and the Jake ones are
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talking about and the tech bronze those are like lower production so we do those as access that our dealer installed okay
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that's how we do it some of those dealers don't have the people and the capability to do that I think that's what they're worried about right yeah it
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is a acquired skill if you don't do it very often you can you can lose that so
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if you're worried about your dealer installing those accessory Stripes I'd ask them if they've done them before or
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if they might have if their answer is no they might have a recommendation for where you could go get them done somewhere else in their city where that
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can be farmed out right or since we're at the Museum I have to say you could do a museum delivery and they do a great
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job good option very good option all right our next question is from mid-engine Corvette for.com we go back
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and forth between Corvette form and the mid- engine form this is from GS 2020 he
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says talk about the roll out of the eay are you happy with progress so far so you're looking at me I can start um I
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don't know if this is asking about uh manufacturing acceleration or the roll out of what the car is we knew and
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anytime you introduce a new brand uh people are unfamiliar with it uh naturally with the electrification
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aspect of it people were skeptical they weren't quite sure what we were doing um and so I think we're pretty happy with
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the customer education part of it getting people to understand we've had a lot of third party media endorsement for
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the car itself and how it operates we went through some of that today and honestly the um the messing
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messaging has gotten better and better but we've really realized how difficult it is to penetrate the fog there's so
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much inertia out there like Josh dired his president presentation today asking if everybody in the audience knew where
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the charge port door was to plug it in because that's been a common common question where do you plug it in oh my
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gosh and so as many times as we said it people still are unsure about okay what
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is this thing exactly so I think it's going to take a critical mass of real customers with real experience being
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able to report on what they've experienced and how much they like the car and that will bring the masses into
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really understanding what it is so you know we're making cars and just like every other model whether it was the
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Stingray or the Z6 you start slow I talked about it today all Corvettes have a bunch of Boutique you know Niche
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high-tech content in them and some of the suppliers that make that sort of by definition they're not high volume
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traditional Automotive suppliers right and so it takes them a while to get their people up to speed their processes
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up to speed and that's true both internally and externally we build the battery and the Drive Unit ourself and
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so we're on an acceleration learning path which is traditional in all manufacturing and so would we like it to
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go faster sure we' love to get people their cars as fast as possible on the other hand we want to make sure we do it in a very measured way keep our quality
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Josh talked about our our quality and warranty has never been in a better position in all 70 some years of
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Corvette and so we want to keep that and want to keep people happy with their car after they get it and so we'll do a
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measured acceleration uh as we always do but we work every day really hard on making sure that slope is as steep as it
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can be yeah yeah so to Echo that yeah the answer is yes we're happy with it both public reception of the car and the
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way the launch is going uh reinforce for people to to have some patience like
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they had to have with Z06 you we promise we'll get you your car uh it's it's cool
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to have this much demand um I I know what it's like to wait for a new Corvette I myself have waited for a new
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Corvette so we understand that we want to get these out as as quickly as we can but we want to be very very uh thorough
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and measured in the launch of especially a car like the eay where we're getting
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into electrification the first time we want to make sure it's absolutely right yeah and I think the really cool thing about the eay and I think it goes back
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to what you had talked about t when Josh said where do you plug the thing in there's no plugin and I think people are
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under a miscommunication that the battery will take you x amount of distance it's not built for that it's
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built for accelera performance not distance driving and I think that's really important yep performance and
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all-wheel drive taking advantage of the traction you have the front end two and Cody's presentation this morning talked
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about how that pays dividends in all kinds of driving conditions yeah we're talking about Cody Buckley who really
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kind of headed up all that eay stuff it was really really good all right let's go to the next question guys question
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four is from Andy bump at Corvette forum and I think we covered this the last time we did this show you guys exactly
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how does the DCT filter monitor work we know the first replacement is at 7500 Mi
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when is the second change supposed to occur would it be at 22,500 miles or
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22,500 mil after the first change so the second change is at 22,500 mil okay good
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then 22,500 miles after that uh something that's caused confusion uh
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with the transmission filter replacement and a bit we we did it intentionally the
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first covered service interval was going to be at about 7500 miles that's when we wanted you to change the trans filter
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it's also happens to be when the engine oil and filter need replaced gotcha we thought well that would be convenient
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for a customer for most customers to come in get all that done at once uh however there are customers I I'm one of
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them that don't drive their cars very far very often so they weren't getting 7500 miles on the car in a year uh so
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just yesterday we were able to make it official we've extended the C verage of the transmission filter for 3 years so
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for those that don't put 7500 mil on their car in the course of a year they would still be covered we don't we
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didn't want people going to the dealer to get a trans filter replaced prematurely because they're trying to
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get it under the covered Service uh we want to make sure customers get as close to that 7500 mile Mark when they get the
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filter changed and then you do it again 22,500 M odometer reading okay and then
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22,500 after that gotcha question number five is from Sur five list on mid-engine
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Corvette forum he said is adaptive cruise control going to be added to Corvette in the future that's a good
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question and we've had a lot of customers ask that question many of the cars they own otherwise have adaptive Crews um many of us on the team don't
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use it um in part because it has to be conservatively calibrated so in city
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traffic if you drive around other people you find yourself quite far behind a car in front of you and um that means other
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people can just cut in front of you and when when that happens the adaptive cruise adapts and keeps that Gap so you go backwards right other people come in
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and so um we had a choice when we were putting this car together you had to go either adaptive or non adaptive and
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based on our polling of drivers we thought most people would probably not be would rather not be forced into the
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adaptive technology because it is kind of a nanny telling you how to drive since then uh times have changed and
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it's become more commonplace to have a system where it can be turned on or two off right so that opens a new chapter on
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the discussion now it's not a trivial to package the sensors and do everything you want to do on the front end of it
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which is a very our front end is low and pointy there's not a lot of place we got a lot of cooling area there's not a lot
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of place to put sensors in and so it means a bit of a tear up uh but we're looking at some maybe non-traditional
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ways that we could get some kind of fun fun ality like that I can't promise it but we hear the customer ask and we'll
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see if we can accommodate it at some point and um Harlem we've got some new electronics coming in for 2025 too do
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you want to touch on that real quick4 there's some new features 2024 yeah yeah
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yeah we have we have basically you know we've um added you know the uh emergency
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breaking the lane change alert the one I really like is the the head the highbeam
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you know where it the intella beam it tells you um if you're especially driving around here in Kentucky you know
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you get on these small roads where it automatically puts your high beams on and takes them off when you need to sure
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and you know we were talking like um we talked about the adaptive cruise too we like you know this is a Corvette who we
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who's going to be following you have to follow somebody yeah what Corvette driver really follows somebody but we do get this question a lot and now that we
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have the L you know I always thought you know I was a pretty good d dver and we have all these things on I'm like oh my
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gosh I'm ter I'm like not my Lane I'm following Too Close everything's going off but I think um the way we're trying
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to do it um is like we talked about is people can if they want to use them
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they're there it's an extra level and I think once people get comfortable with them they like them but we still want to
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keep it a driver's car so things are defeatable and we never want to be annoying whatever we do yeah you can
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turn all that off if you want exactly which is great all right our final question in segment one guys comes from
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Bob mlan and I think we've covered this before but it was just worth covering again what's included in the zeer
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package besides summer Tires so basically I think we're a little guilty
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of of confusing people because actually um even through the development we we
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figured out that we could the eay was so robust we could go to the allseason
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tires or the PS4s you know performance summer Tires without having to do
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different calibrations on the chassis so we have actually you know people study RPO codes and everything so it does come
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with a different RPO code and originally it was supposed to be a different chassis so people are wondering what's
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really the difference but ultimately when end up happening we we could use the same calibrations for both tires so
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the short answer is it's tires it's tires that's it it is tires and this is rare because tires work in conjunction
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with all the rest of the chassis right we had this new allseason tire that was specifically engineering for this
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application it's a it's a work of art if you listen to the technology behind it's amazing and so we were actually able to
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do stuff with that to bring it closer to a PS4s summer Tire such as the calibrations could be the same which is
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great because a lot of people are and we can't advise them to throw All Seasons
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or throw winter tires on the car because we say well what the car wasn't engineered or tuned for that so we can't
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recommend that but people really like to have that ability in this case you can go back fourth between a summer tire and
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an allseason Tire if you want on the eay that's perfect well guys let's take our first break when we come back we've got
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Haron Charles brand manager and the chief engineer for Corvette joshh holder
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in the second segment we're taking more questions from mid-engine Corvette form and Corvette form in our second segment
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we're going to talk with Mr mid-engine Corvette forum John elegant John wants to know on this year's Car and Driver
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lightning lap test at the Virginia International Raceway the Z06 was faster than the eay now we know you test models
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on different tracks where was the eay tested and found to be faster on one lap than the Z6 the Z6 is the ultimate track
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Corvette that was its Mission yes the eay does all things well we talked about
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all its all weather capability what a great Grand Touring Car it is if you want a track car the Z06 is your
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Corvette so the r-ray is not generally quicker than a Z6 right on a track there
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are some shorter tracks can hold its own on a drag strip um it's certainly at
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least Eighth Mile uh is a is going to outpace the Z6 but the Z6 is the
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ultimate track weapon and so it's actually going exactly according the plan our mission to set out for both the
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Z06 and the eay have been achieved and the ZO6 uh performance on track is where it
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really shines right right I saw where somebody did a 0 to 60 and 2.2 in an eay
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when they hook up they uh they go they can really go when you lay it down you lay it down right I me I mean weed to do
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times that we know that when the media gets it and a you know that'll be good time but that a lot of people can
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achieve but if somebody beats it that's great great and I would I would say you know we don't sandbag any of our models
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it's not like we pulled the eay back so the Z6 could be the champ we made that
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car as pure a track machine as we knew how to do we made the r-ray as fast as we knew how to make it it doesn't have
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as good power to weight ratio it claws its way out of Corners like nobody's business but once you get to the stets
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speed the Z6 pulls away so and it comes with cup tires you can get it with cup tires so exactly that's a huge step it
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is that's a big Advantage for sure our next question is from Andy bump from Corvette forum he says what does the
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hydraulic system flush do and should it be done every time the DCT external canister is replaced that's a good
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technical question it is so I'll take a start at it uh the hydraulic system
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flush does kind of the way it's described it forces transmission fluid through the fine filter the filter that
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you replace so at a dealership they can hook up the dealer service tool to the
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car and run a routine that will tell the trans control module to do this fluid filter flush okay and because the car is
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already hoisted on a rack the technicians already got the panels off there's some other work he doing this kind of happens in parallel in the
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background okay so we're doing it at a dealer visit because we can and we can take the last bit of whatever
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contamination might be in that oil and get it into the filter before the technician replaces it do it yourself or
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have become nervous that hey now I can't do it myself I don't have a service tool I can't force this routine you don't
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have to do the routine like I said we do it because we can but the the fine
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filtering routine happens through normal driving anyway in fact when you're driving steady state like say down the
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highway right we run into a routine in the transmission that will force more of that fluid through the fine filter so
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normal driving is doing this if you are do it yourself or you don't want anyone else touching your car you can change
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the trans filter without running this routine okay that sounds good and I notice Andy bump asked a transmission
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filter question in the last segment so I think he should come and apply to be a technician he should in uh one of our
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dealerships to help work us work on the DCT I think he's trying to get a job
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don't he's asking good questions he's not the only one that have pass that's true our next question is from lost soul
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from Ming Corvette forum he says can you lower the stealth mode ambient temperature limit down to 30 or 40° to
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make it usable in the mornings or even in warmer States we would love to and we
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may I would say you know we drive these cars year round and we were talking about how great it is to have stealth
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mode and be able to crawl out of your neighborhood quietly and not annoy the neighbors and in Michigan it's like the
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majority of the Year where if you're parking outside you can't use stealth mode because of the temperature now GM
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has a lot of requirements about the functionality of the car and we expect in any driving mode like this you to
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meet all those requirements so it's a fine balance of how well does the car perform what are the customer's
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expectations going to be in a stealth mode it's amazing how much stuff is like fully functional it's just driving like
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driving a regular car it's like the engine started yeah almost everything works but not everything works cuz just
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the you know the front e axle you're not generating in heat in the back um there's a there's things that the car
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uses to its advantage in different environmental situations especially cold weather um and so we're looking at a
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bunch of us would love to drop that temperature and so we're kind of in the middle of reassessing that balance of
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performance okay and if there's a way to drop it some we will because we'd all love it great and there there is I just
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want to address one thing there I reading some of the you know I read all the forums both of these great forums and there's some misconception too where
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some people thought oh it's the batteries don't like the cold it has nothing to do with that it's it's more about your comfort the Fring the
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windshield and things like that is why we set the temperature where it was it has nothing to do with the batteries and
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the and the e Drive works at all temperature it has nothing to do with that at all I just want the shuttle mode
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you can use the shuttle mode any temperature any temp yeah so it's not the batteries the batteries
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will work gotcha okay good all right our next question is from 23 c8z he's from
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Corvette forum he says does manual mode cause any more wear to the transmission than leaving it in drive mode no if it
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did Carlin would be breaking cars left and right because that's the only way he drives he's never driven in drive I
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don't think he's I like driving in manual mode I drive in manual all the time so I'd be the poster child for that
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a transmission it's no different you're electronically commanding a gear State change it does its business whether it
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does it on its own command or on your command it does the same work in some ways it might be less shifting than the
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car would do on its own depending on how you drive it depending on how you drive it yeah I probably don't I I love shifting I put it in manual mode if I'm
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not in manual mode I still do paddle shifting and I'm up and down up and down it's so much just leaves it in third
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gear down the highway whatever you can go we don't recommend that actually you can go you can do almost everything
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light load and high RPM is not recommended so the clean answer to that is no okay defit and then the other
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answer is don't drive like Haron If It Makes You Happy
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yeah our next question is from 11z senator from Mid Engine corbette form he says can an Australian participate in an
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rhc delivery and go to Spring Mountain that's a good question so so I'll just
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start um anybody can go to Spring Mountain I mean they have they'll open it up if you're willing to fly to Las
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Vegas they'll you can sign up and go go to go to Spring Mountain the museum
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delivery gets tricky because it has to do with whatever laws in their country
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and Licensing the car and driving it out of state so we haven't even been able to
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even the Canadian laws cuz be honest a lot of people want to do it from Canada and we haven't we haven't been able to
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work that out even for Canadians so it gets it gets into that it's not that we don't we of course we'd love to have
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everybody and maybe we'll work it out someday we talked about like um in Europe they have like a tourist thing
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where you can you go the other way like buying German cars can drive it and then get it set back that would be great that
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would be like a dream thing if we could do that someday I've heard where people buy BMWs they go over there they take
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their car delivery they drive around they send it back to BMW and they ship it to the United States cool program
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that would be cool if that's what they're getting at somebody for Australian or somebody from Germany or Europe we could do drive around this
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beautiful country our beautiful country and then yeah we don't have that loophole I mean the museum is
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effectively a delivery dealer right right and we have to abide by all of the
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laws in place in the country where it's delivered yeah so exactly a car with a steering wheel on the wrong side would
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be a foul for sure a I should say the wrong side the other side the other side
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we love the Australians yeah we had that question this afternoon in your session can you buy a right-hand drive and keep
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it in the United States and the answer is absolutely not there you go why anybody would want yeah it was from an
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American who just wanted to different I think he saw that Corvette Summer movie if you guys remember that
30:34
yeah where they had the rightand drive Corvette and if they saw the Barbie movie they saw a C1 with a back seat
30:40
right who put a back seat in a C1 we weren consulted on that I obviously can tell all right our next question is from
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Chevy Chad from Corvette forum he said we would love to have the option for blue break calipers can that be added
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well we can tell me about it I just bought a blue car why couldn't I get blue calipers har maybe that's something we should look at
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we'll get back to the back to work I mean we'll get right on it Chevy Chad and and Taj want it maybe we should at
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it we did have them previously so yeah that's a good that's a good suggestion there we go all right our final question
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in segment two is from even ZR1 from Corvette forum he said will the SE this is a great question will the 70th
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Anniversary microfiber interior be offered again I love mine in my 2023
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70th Anniversary white pearl metal Coupe I think we should just keep it for
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those cars well there's always that balance isn't there right right so the SE so
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that's that's basically the answer so the 70th Anniversary interior was special just for that 70th Anniversary
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model but there is a possibility you know the the suede a lot of people like more suede intensive interior so that's
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something we could do in the future on a new interior perhaps it's pretty classy looking I love mine everybody that gets
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in and goes wow wow and they feel that interior the dash and the doors they're
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really impressed they love it so but that's a perfect example of where we can't please everybody you know people
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want this so we could make the person happy wants to order that in their 24 and make everybody who's got a 23 angry
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wait a second I thought this was going to be special for me now you've just hurt my resale you've hurt the
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specialness of my car so we're always struggling with that balance even ZR1 from Corvette form's going to have to go
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find a TW a 70th Anniversary 2023 Stingray or ZR1 or or Z6 there you go
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all right guys our final break's coming up in our third segment we'll take six more questions coming up with Taj Josh
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4231 I'm your host Steve Garrett with me is the Holy Trinity of Corvette it's Josh holder Tad juer and harlon Charles
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our final segment here starts with red C8 Z6 he's from mid-engine Corvette
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forum.com his question is does the eay come with two coolant tanks one in the front and one in the rear what does each
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one do and what coolant do they use and why are they not customer serviceable so it does come with two coolant tanks just
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for the eay okay the one in the front is uh part of a system that cools what we
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call the power electronic so that's the inverter we talked about the massive amount of power that the battery can
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both regenerate and and dispense to the electric motor that power generates Heat
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and the Power Electronics manages that current and so they see a lot of heat we cool that with um a glycol and deionized
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water mixture wow which is why we we put a tamperproof cap on it so I'm trying to answer all his questions at once uh we
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just didn't want anyone inadvertently putting tap water in it you can get the cap off it's more of a hey read your
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owner's manual before you but the reality is you should never need to open that or service it it's not something
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you have to regularly service good um that heat is exchanged through a radiator in the front of the car um that
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helps cool that system off at the rear same di glycol mixture goes through a
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chiller which call it a chiller it's a liquid to liquid heat exchanger that transfers thermal energy from the
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battery cells themselves wow with refrigerant the same refrigerant that's used in the AC system and a battery pack
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you don't want it to be too cool or too hot like around 100 degre in in our case
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100 degrees Fahrenheit is about where we like to keep it so our strategy is let the battery get up to Temp when it's
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powering the vehicle or regenerating and when it does we like to clamp that temperature as quickly as we can which
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is why we use a ref ref and a chiller to exchange that thermal energy gotcha our second question is from Turbo tuner from
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Corvette forum he says please go through the RPM and slip percentage control in launch control settings so I can do a
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start Josh will probably add so you know we have a really good traction control sort of default launch control uh
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calibration and a lot of people think of tracks as either slippery or sticky
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there's actually way more variables than that um there's the static coefficient
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of friction so how much traction can the tire get when it's not slipping and then once it starts to slip that coefficient
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of friction changes and it can change at different rates it can change as a function of temperature it can change as
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a function of how fast the wheels are spinning so there's all these different variables that go into the quality of
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the launch and so since we can't predict every track in the world the temperature humidity how much sun load's been on the
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track what's the tire compound that's been laid down on the track there's all these different things that would be impossible to predict so that's why we
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put this feature in where people can determine how much inertial energy you know spin up the motor that when you
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dump the clutches to try to optimize the amount of energy to take advantage of the available traction both that static
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and the dynamic friction so that's why it's there gotcha yeah and the idea
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behind the two variables you can adjust slip percentage is just like it sounds it's how much the tires are spinning
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before traction control starts to intervene and then engine speed RPM is really
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we're we're managing torque so we're allowing the customer to tailer how much torque delivery during a launch and like
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Tad said it's really meant for customers to play with on varying friction surfaces so you might be in the
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southwest where there's particularly a lot of sand or something on the road you might want to play with it there its real mission was drag strip type
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launches people think oh I'm going to a drag strip I've got this rubber covered surface the car is going to hook up like
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crazy if you have drag slicks yes right on radial street tires especially cold
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ones it's awful um so that's where that comes in really handy but the honest truth is
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it's just juvenile fun to play with uh to see what each one does and what it
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does to your launch um and so we we did it so customers could play with it and that's exactly what we want them to do
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that's great that's great almost almost everybody thinks they can out outwit the computers mhm nice so we give them some
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knobs to turn see if they can do it give something to play with give you some humility there you go our next question
39:33
is from away in the sky from M engine Corvette for me says throughout the design of the C8 and the development
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what's been your greatest Challenge and your greatest accomplishment each guy the biggest challenge we had was doing a
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miden engine architecture right on our first try yeah you know years you know we had seven generations of front engine
39:51
car we had it pretty dialed in we knew it was important we knew a lot about and
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how thermal management uh as as an example what we didn't know on a mid- engine car
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is okay we got an engine in the back so there's n no natural air flow through
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the engine compartment in a front engine car you got all the Heat exchangers and then that heat Downstream of that which
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or the air Downstream of that it's warmed up a little bit but it's way cooler than an exhaust manifold right and so you have natural evacuation of
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the that's why I have the gills on the side of the fenders so through there out the bottom of the car now we don't have that now you got
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people sitting in the way and so that's why we had to figure out how to get air flow to the back without turning the
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whole back end of the car into a parachute yeah you know we need to get ventilation through there but capturing
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air through big side openings and not having that turn into a bunch of high pressure inside the the back of the
40:48
engine compartment which slows you down that's drag right um and then how do you manage the there's almost an infinite
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number of ways that you could configure heat exchange we were just talking about the complexity of just cooling off the
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battery and the Power Electronics now you throw everything else in transf fluid engine oil you like to be
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comfortable your AC you've got this Myriad of different needs for cooling
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air how do you distribute it in an optimal way how do you do all the plumbing where do you package all this
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stuff and it's not like we had cars running around to tell us that we could just plug and play all this stuff we had
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to synthesize we had to do computer models to generate all the Alternatives and what are the pluses and minuses for
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all these things and as you can see we've had the car out for quite a long
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time now five years air conditioning no complaints Track Performance never overheats thing's bulletproof you know
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we've done uh quite an amazing job and kept the traditional efficiency what people like about Corvettes is you buy a
41:50
stingray you know still get 30 m a gallon on the highway drag is low it's
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it's you know it's it's a privilege and it's been amazing to work with the whole team putting this plan together and
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getting it right especially when we have to compete against all of our other mid- engine competitors they've done many many generations they've got the tribal
42:08
knowledge of how to do things right how to do things wrong we had to grow that internally yeah absolutely harlon so I
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I'm going to talk a little bigger scale I think the greatest accomplishment is going to sound different com you know of
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course we're so proud of the Z6 the eay Z1 is coming I'm actually most proud of
42:28
the accomplishment with the stingray because this was a car I believe that we're the only ones in the world that
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could do where we took the attainable Corvette formula and made it an exotic
42:40
mid-engine sports car with all the attributes and benefits that come with that but so the biggest challenge was
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you know so working with you know all the engineers finally we get to do mid- engine we're going to make this thing
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you know they're thinking of the ZR1 they're thinking of the Z6 and I go but we got to have the this thing's got to
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be a DA driver we got to have trunk space so to maintain the Corvette formula all the things people love about
43:05
Corvette Above All You conerns of attainability is to it's a car you can go on road trips you can couple can go
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for a long distances and we started like everything with like being to ur we wanted a front
43:20
storage and a rear storage so we got to the point you know we're sitting in all these meetings we said we're going to
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make like the the carry-on bag an engineering s volume surface you cannot
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interfere with this and the same thing in the rear we're going to have the two plus the golf clubs you know it has to
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hold that and we got to the point like and the roof has to fit in too and the roof has to fit in so every we'd be in
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these meetings that start like 6:30 in the morning and it' go like all day I call we just stewing in our juices for
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like 10 hours in this conference room and and we go and every time somebody would come with something nope it's
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going that's going into the you know I had to be be there and sit there you know we're all there like like no you
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can't put that in there there's a there's a hose going through no you can't do that so it it's just like the challenge of everybody tell realizing I
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know this is the high performance Sports and that's what different than you know if it's a Ferrari or P they don't care you know they're just going to do what
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they do it's it's a toy where ours is really a car that you can enjoy and drive so that's I think our Challenge
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and what I'm proud of yeah Josh I I think i' build on what they said now bet
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if like I said you could do a whole show on this we could all just go on for hours about this Mine mine's also Stingray related the whole everything
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we're talking about applies to all Corvettes in the eighth generation platform but the design Synergy between
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the coupe and the convertible happening at this simultaneously right and how one
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change affected another we have to Stow the roof in the coupe in the trunk that
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Harland and all of us are fighting so hard to keep that utility in the invertible we have to store this
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retractable hard top between the rear wheels which sets the width of the car
45:03
the opening of the roof sets the depth and of the trunk and length of the car one little millimeter affects all others
45:10
right so we're continuously going in these loops and I think people would be shocked about the heated debate over
45:16
literally millimeters about what what the right decision was and to have our you know this the talent in our studio
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doing these two cars together being able to do the thermal management Tad was
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talking about with a trunk that gives all this utility yet blocking airflow would have been so easy to cool the
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engine compartment without that trunk there to get the air out of the car and then things like the design of the
45:40
transmission the front face of the transmission case to the output shafts of the axle is super super short and
45:48
that Dimension sets up the length of the whole car we knew we're doing a small block V8 the bore centers have been around since 1955 we're going to change
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that formula it's got to go behind that occupant compartment we want to get a
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average tall height driver into the car so the whole length underneath is competing with all this length above all
46:06
at the same time and another thing about the transmission the input shaft is
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below the output shafts and that might oh well so what well it allowed us to lower the engine the crankshaft and the
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out input shaft of the trons are on the same axis so that whole center of gravity is now lower and rearer than the
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car wow and it made one thing I know we're all proud of and that's the driving experience we were the first
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time we got in the car out in what we call the challenge course just a con course out on on black leg it was about
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80% calibration is the car wasn't quite done yet but we were all taking turns in the car and got out just giggling and
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when when grown adults are giggling you don't really need comments you know we've achieved what we tried to achieve
46:49
absolutely right tell me in essence when did you guys really start working on the mid-engine car what year oh five five
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really so that was that's you know in principle well not this iteration we
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actually had a previous iteration so like when you you were talking about before about our first try in a in a
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weird way this was kind of our second it almost like the first generation was really the second generation so we had kind of a round before this wow we had
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started one but the 2005 is when harl and I did our very first presentations
47:22
asking leadership to let us study it so it's not like we're drawing lines on a mident it's like can we even ask for
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resources B bla one time said anybody caught working on mid- engine car is going to be fired wow in the face of
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that we're still doing presentations advocating for it and so you know that's why it took a really long time and we
47:41
did get a false start um after that uh we did a bunch of presentation convinced them H maybe it's worth studying and we
47:48
convinced them it's probably a good idea we're probably going to have to do it and we started it and then we stopped
47:54
really yeah wow heading into bankruptcy it was just no way we're going to do it so they just they stopped us in our
48:01
tracks because the C7 was supposed to be the mid- engine generation it was supposed to be it was pushed back yeah
48:07
we were working on it but that first that first one though cemented like I think in leadership's mind that
48:12
eventually we were going to go there yeah right that's good all right our next question is from even ZR1 from
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Corvette forum he says can we get a software update to Hide Soft buttons on the interface so that Android auto and
48:24
apple carplay can be full screen who's the unfortunate person who's going to answer this
48:31
one I think the answer is no yeah I I'll take us a stab at it we're we're Chuck
48:36
we we agree with the sentiment here is why we're chuckling we understand the the question uh in in our infotainment
48:45
system that allows phone projection we keep what we call persistent virtual controls the idea is that you can
48:52
project your phone which we know a lot of people do we all do it sure uh that you can switch back between your phone
48:58
and Native applications like the eay app we were talking about earlier today that's super engaging and entertaining
49:04
and fun to look at and and having that layout that way allows you to switch between your phone projection and and an
49:10
application like that at the same time projection developers like Android auto
49:16
and apple carplay also have menu but buttons that are persistent and virtual
49:22
So within the projection application you can switch back and forth and when you
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stack all those buttons that are persistent up the display whether it's uh song title album art or navigation
49:35
shrinks to make room for all those persistent virtual so it would be nice maybe for it to take over and maybe you
49:42
as you approach those virtuals would pop up we don't control how they project the
49:48
phone you know it's up to them we can't tell them how to do that we chose to keep these persistent displays within
49:54
our native system so you can go back and forth between gotta and that was really a reaction to customer input we send customer surveys out and this is not
50:01
just Corvette this is companywide infotainment resources and so you ask a customer would you like XYZ to be
50:08
persistent so you have instant OneTouch access to it they'll say yes it's the question ever asked are you willing to
50:14
sacrifice the rest of the screen shrinking down to do that they all say yeah sure I'll do that so we have these
50:20
surveys that say this is what customers want and so that balance is a tough one to the time and temperature too on there
50:27
you they wanted that you know people wanted that persistent so that's takes up some room that's a tough one that's a
50:32
real tough one especially for us cuz we have a very compressed interior compartment so lots of cars have bigger
50:38
screens and you sit way up high much higher roof we just can't do that if we put screens from some of our trucks and
50:45
you wouldn't be able to see the road it'd be way up here so interesting yeah definitely all right our next question
50:50
is from Mid Engine Corvette form it's Meer web he says when you're stopped in either drive or manual mode with your
50:56
foot on the brake are the clutch discs dragging to allow the car to creep or do
51:01
they engage when you take your foot off the brake pedal yes and yes okay next
51:09
question so uh the clutch engagement is controlled by hydraulic pressure we can apply pressure to the clutches which is
51:16
how much friction they're applying and how much torque is being used to creep the car forward and that's a function of
51:22
brake pedal pressure it's not just onof cuz that would make a very clunky an awkward Driving Experience so the more
51:29
firm you are on the brake pedal the less clutch pressure we're applying okay as you back off the brake pedal will start
51:35
applying more clutch pressure so the car is ready to move like a torque converter automatic transmission even though this
51:41
is completely different so it operates the way people would expect in automatic
51:46
drive mode yeah it's a modern miracle that you can use friction clutches and have a driveway as smooth as it is you
51:52
think about you trying to do a manual a traditional manual all right dry clutch and and engage it and so smooth that it
51:59
feels like a torque converter yeah and we were paranoid and skeptical about being able to do
52:05
that y well that's really cool though all right our final question guys is from C wadell he's from Corvette for him
52:12
he said what considerations were made for combining a stop start system with stealth mode in a selectable economy
52:20
mode it seems like that would be beneficial for fuel mileage to get the car to move in stealth mode or after a
52:26
stop start this is where life gets complicated yes um that's a engaging question isn't it it's a good question
52:33
because it's it's something I think we all intuitive if you other hybrid
52:38
vehicles um this is a unique hybrid in the world um the way it operates is
52:44
completely unique and so we still have to live within the rules that are defined for emissions for all kinds of
52:51
other cars and so there's some real technical challenges with that and we're
52:57
very very conservative when it comes to meeting emissions other people walk right up to the edge General Motors in
53:04
his entire history we we are very conservative that way we make sure that cars new are way way Headroom to all the
53:11
regulations and even old cars have head room to the regulations and so we live within a constrained environment on what
53:19
we can do executing the system so we've tried to do the best we can um with what
53:24
with the hardware we have but it's a really good question a lot of us are trying to see in the future could we be
53:30
more aggressive in this direction so we think it's a really good question uh that we're studying
53:35
um for some point in the future we'll take this question as a vote to implement something like this one one
53:41
thing T was getting at cold start emissions and I don't mean cold temperatures I mean the hardware the
53:47
Catalyst right is not hot enough to effectively uh do its job as an emission
53:52
device so there's very stringent rules around cold startups and within a drive
53:58
cycle you effectively get one cold start so in a stop start situation if if
54:04
anyone's been in any car for long enough you'll notice if you sit there long enough even though you didn't move the engine will start that's because
54:10
detecting that the catalyst is starting to cool off so it's things like that that have to be integrated into when we
54:16
could deliver stealth mode and a customer could be in a situation where they'd be like hey I didn't do anything
54:22
that should exit me out of stealth mode the engine just started right and so it's that balance of Drive quality that
54:27
gets and Emissions compliance that gets really really complicated it is it really is guys thank you so much Josh
54:34
holder chief engineer for Corvette harlon Charles brand manager Taj juor executive chief engineer buddy we're
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going to miss you thank you very much congratulations on 47 years with General Motors congratulations on your
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